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This is a discussion on deficient application, can the PIO reject it! within the Ask for RTI Query forums, part of the RTI Community Support category; If I submit an application for information, but is deficient in asking or incomplete, should the information Officer call for better particulars or can he straight way reject the application?...
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If I submit an application for information, but is deficient in asking or incomplete, should the information Officer call for better particulars or can he straight way reject the application? |
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| Since the information Officer is expected to help the applicant in making the application, he should call for better particulars and shall not reject the application. If he rejects the application he is deemed to have rendered service which is deficient.
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| A very valid doubt indeed. I think we have a twin-task before us in the matter of RTI. We have to educate the general public about their rights and also the officials about their duties and responsibilities. |
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| Yes, indeed. Once we are confidant of our support and community support and also are through with final release of RTI India many of the Officers are going to join us. Many of the Officer's approach me outside the purview of this portal and I had not insisted them to get the answer here as of now. ![]() Hopefully, this thread at that time would work as a reference point.
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The environemnt of fear will always force officials to resort to such methods when the application is deficient. |
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If the ground are vague or he did it on purpose, you can lodge a complain with the CIC. The erring PIO can be penalized under Section 20. This would work, only if your complain to the CIC is drafted well and to the point. However, I would recommend that it would be better to phrase out our queries in the original application properly. Submit the application any good PIO in a particular Deptt whom we know, with a request to forward this application to the PIO of the concerned Deptt. from whom we need the information. A lot of problems can be solved at this level. Manoj Pai Ahmedabad |
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Unless the application is of same department, the application will be rejected. |
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No PIO can reject your application, just on the grounds that the application submitted does not pertain to that Deptt. Say, you submit an application to the PIO, Home Deptt. asking for info from the PIO of Railways, the PIO of the Home Deptt has to forward yout application the Rail Bhavan within 5 days. They just cannot reject your application on the pain of being penalized under Section 20. I usually send majority of my application to the CPIO of the PMO, who are very fast in forwarding this application to the concerened PIO. And of course, that particular deptt would act faster as the application had reached them from the PMO. Best wishes |
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| Post Office has been chosen to act as nodal agency for whole of Central Government to forward the application to respective department, and hence the ACPIO of for all the Ministries: Quote:
It stated that, you should send the application to respective department and to proper channel. Though I too cannot find the link: May be Dr. Kushal would come to rescue ![]() When you say: Quote:
But personally I feel that is the wrong way to send the application to PMO CPIO, but I am not sure of the act and provision: may be there a provision that in case of suspected reply or not able to find the correct CPIO you must send it to PMO? |
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I have myself filed several dozen applications with the CPIO of the PMO and not once have they asked me to contact another deptt directly. Maybe you might like to check out this decision concerning the CPIO of the PMO, recently decided by the CIC. http://cic.gov.in/CIC-Orders/Decision_08012007_1.pdf Same way, you can send in your application to the PIO of any Deptt. This is what the Act is about. The flexible clauses have been included, to facilitate the poor folks living in rural areas, where there are hardly 2-3 Govt. Deptts. and enable them to file their RTI Application at these same Deptts, who in turn will transfer the same to the concerned Deptt. This is what democracy is about. Best wishes |
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Whatever, I did notice, that the CPIOs jump from their seat, when they receive application from the PMO. Try it and see it for yourself. Enjoy ;-) |
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They will be extra fast in delivering the mail to you and also take extra care that these flimsly brown cover dont tear or get wet. My neighbours complain that both these blokes the Speed Guy and the regular post man, deliver my letters first before they start with the rest. Earlier the Speed Post man used to come around 5 pm. Now he always comes before lunch time. Any comments? |
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| Is there any order in this regard that post offices will forward the application to respective PIO. Do they have details in this regard? |
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| yes, it is an order that Postal department will act on behalf of all central government ministries. Quote:
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| Thank you Aparna, I guess Kushal is doing a good job on behalf of his department ![]() |
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