RTI India Join Big Helpers! Donate to RTI India!


Welcome to the RTI India: The complete Online Portal for Right to Information in India.

Right to Information has an important economic dimension, as it embraces not only political freedom but also the freedom to lead a life with dignity, unfettered by domination and discrimination.

Our aim is to provide authentic and analytical help regarding Right to Information in India to Officers, Lawyers, Citizens, RTI Activist, Associations, & NGO's. Our strength is in bringing them all at one platform.

Join RTI India!

Police ask for money to give data under RTI Act

This is a discussion on Police ask for money to give data under RTI Act within the RTI News & Discussion forums, part of the RTI News, Circulars and Decisions category; Police ask for money to give data under RTI Act Believe it or not, senior officers of Delhi Police have actually asked for money from an applicant seeking information under ...


New Thread
Go Back   RTI India > RTI News, Circulars and Decisions > RTI News & Discussion

76512 Webpages

Register Tags Members List Mark Forums Read
Notices

  #1  
Old 12-26-2007, 02:08 PM
karira's Avatar
Advanced Member

 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Secunderabad
Posts: 3,368
Rep Power: 44
karira is a splendid one to beholdkarira is a splendid one to beholdkarira is a splendid one to beholdkarira is a splendid one to beholdkarira is a splendid one to beholdkarira is a splendid one to beholdkarira is a splendid one to beholdkarira is a splendid one to behold
Police ask for money to give data under RTI Act

Police ask for money to give data under RTI Act


Believe it or not, senior officers of Delhi Police have actually asked for money from an applicant seeking information under the Right to Information Act.

RTI activist JS Bhattacharjee wrote to the Delhi Police’s Public Information Officer in November seeking details of impounded vehicles that lie dumped at the scores of police stations in the capital. The PIO shot off a letter to 15 deputy commissioners of police to provide information to Bhattacharjee under the law. Three DCPs — in charge of IGI airport, East and West districts — wrote back asking Bhattacharjee to deposit almost Rs 50,000 as “fees” for getting the job done.

Their reasoning: compiling the information is a lengthy and time-consuming process. It would need several sub-inspectors, head constables and constables working on gathering the information and tabulating it over days. Each of the three DCPs, therefore, asked Bhattacharjee to pay the salaries of the officials for the number of days they would be involved in the exercise.

While DCP East Ajay Chaudhary wanted the applicant to deposit Rs 13,949 to collect the information from 13 police stations under his jurisdiction, DCP IGI Airport Naresh Kumar asked for Rs 15,198 for just three police stations under him. DCP West HGS Dhaliwal asked for a steep Rs 19,474 — he has 13 police stations under him.

Three other DCPs — Crime and Railways, Provisions and Logistics and Police Control Room — have already supplied the information to Bhattacharjee free of cost, except for photocopying charges, which is legal under the RTI Act.

The Delhi Police PRO, Rajan Bhagat, defended the three DCPs saying, “Our PIOs are following the provisions of the RTI Act. If the applicant is dissatisfied, he has the right to appeal to the higher authorities,” he said. Asked why then some of DCPs had readily parted with the information without demanding a “fee,” he said, “The response varies from officer to officer.”

RTI activist Arvind Kejriwal said the response of the officers seeking fees “is completely illegal.” He added: “The salaries of the sub-inspectors or constables is already being paid by the tax-payers. Providing information under the RTI Act is an additional responsibility given to them by Parliament.”

http://www.hindustantimes.com/storyp...y+to+give+data

Last edited by karira; 12-26-2007 at 02:09 PM.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 12-26-2007, 02:15 PM
karira's Avatar
Advanced Member

 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Secunderabad
Posts: 3,368
Rep Power: 44
karira is a splendid one to beholdkarira is a splendid one to beholdkarira is a splendid one to beholdkarira is a splendid one to beholdkarira is a splendid one to beholdkarira is a splendid one to beholdkarira is a splendid one to beholdkarira is a splendid one to behold
Re: Police ask for money to give data under RTI Act

This is the SECOND TIME , within a month, that Delhi Police is doing this.
The senior officers need to go back and get trained once again or at least be able to use GOOGLE !

Please read the following thread:

Want info from Delhi police? Shell out Rs 1.5 lakh!

Information regarding "uncliamed/siezed" vehicles (all the 22,583 of them) is available online at:

Zonal Integrated Police Network (zipnet.nic.in)

If there is any Police Officer from Delhi Police on this board, can he/she please ask the senior officers to visit these two threads and the website given above.

Just shows the irresponsible and callous nature of the Delhi Police officials !

By the way, why didn't the citizen also use Google ?
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 12-27-2007, 09:47 AM
karira's Avatar
Advanced Member

 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Secunderabad
Posts: 3,368
Rep Power: 44
karira is a splendid one to beholdkarira is a splendid one to beholdkarira is a splendid one to beholdkarira is a splendid one to beholdkarira is a splendid one to beholdkarira is a splendid one to beholdkarira is a splendid one to beholdkarira is a splendid one to behold
Re: Police ask for money to give data under RTI Act

Red tape worms



Information is the key to any battle, and no one knows this better than government officials. So what do they do when the Right To Information (RTI) Act ensures that they can’t refuse information legally? Create other sorts of roadblocks to discourage the public from asking uncomfortable questions.

In the latest instance, three Delhi Deputy Commissioners of Police (DCPs) have asked for ‘fees’ from an RTI applicant who sought details of impounded vehicles that lie dumped at police stations in the city. The law is clear on the ‘fee’ for RTI applications: Rs 10 at the time of filing an application. If an applicant needs data from official files, it will be supplied free of cost. But if he needs photocopies of files etc, then the cost is calculated at Rs 2 per page.

In case, the information is available in electronic form, it will be Rs 50 per CD. The information has to be made available within 30 days of the application. Instead of asking for the legal fee, the three DCPs asked the applicant to deposit Rs 50,000 as ‘fees’, which includes photocopying charges and per day salaries of the officers given the job. Interestingly, this demand was made after three other DCPs had already supplied the same information to the applicant without asking for any extra fee, paying only for photocopying charges.

This kind of corruption is not new. Similar cases have been reported from other states too. An RTI activist was threatened at gunpoint by a police officer in Bihar, while in Uttar Pradesh, a similar ‘fee’ was demanded from activists looking for information on National Rural Employment Guarantee Act (NREGA) workers. But people have managed to use the Act to get their work done in other government departments without paying bribes. That is probably where it hurts the ***** the most.

It is understandable that government officials are stretched and information gathering is an additional burden. But that should not be used as an excuse to demand payment to a government servant, whose salary is being paid by the tax-paying public.

This also undermines the progressive piece of legislation that hopes to redefine the patron-client relationship that exists between ***** and the public. The attitude only shows that changing a feudal mindset is not an easy job. The battle has only begun.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/StoryP...Red+tape+worms

Last edited by karira; 12-27-2007 at 09:47 AM.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
act, money, police


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)

 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On
Forum Jump

Similar Threads for: Police ask for money to give data under RTI Act

Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Can I give information which otherwise would be available at Rs.100/- chanda_s Ask for RTI Query 21 01-27-2008 01:26 AM
7 yrs on, money yet to reach PM’s fund ganpat1956 RTI News & Discussion 6 10-25-2007 05:17 PM
whether Pio at RPO would be able to give information about application which is stuck at the police department for verification? pbuddhiraja Ask for RTI Query 5 08-25-2007 10:13 AM
No money spent on advertisement of RTI Act karira RTI General Discussions 1 06-29-2007 01:04 PM
Bureaucrats give thumbs down to the RTI Act karira RTI News & Discussion 0 06-12-2007 11:07 AM


Copyrights

New to Site?

Need Help?

Powered by vBulletin. Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.2.0 Web Technologies by Dr. Kushal Pathak

All times are GMT +5.5. The time now is 01:27 PM.



1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40