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CAN ANY BODY TELL, WHAT TO DO WHEN A CPIO GIVES WRONG INFORMATION STATING THAT HE DID NOT RECEIVED APPLICATION FOR WHAT WE ARE ASKING QUESTIONS

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Old 01-17-2008, 02:54 PM
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REQUEST TO ALL MEMBERS AND GUEST,

DEAR FRIENDS,

CAN ANY BODY TELL, WHAT TO DO WHEN A CPIO GIVES WRONG INFORMATION STATING THAT HE DID NOT RECEIVED APPLICATION FOR WHAT WE ARE ASKING QUESTIONS.

THE PROOF OF SUBMISSION OF APPLICATION IS AVAILABE WITH ME.

WHETHER THE INFORMATION PROVIDING AUTHORITY IS LIABLE FOR PUNISHMENT?

iF SO WHO WILL IMPOSE THE FINE TO INFORMATION PROVIDING AUTHORITY?

THE CPIO ALSO DENYING THE FILE NOTING, CAN ANY BODY TELL WHAT IS THE NEXT THAT WE HAVE TO DO?

SOME OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE HEADS THREATING OUR ENTIRE FAMILY.

I EXPECT SUGGESTIONS AND DIRECTIONS FROM PEOPLE AND RTI ACTIVIST.

MY EMAIL ADDRESS:[###################]

RA KATKAM.

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Re: CAN ANY BODY TELL, WHAT TO DO WHEN A CPIO GIVES WRONG INFORMATION STATING THAT HE DID NOT RECEIVED APPLICATION FOR WHAT WE ARE ASKING QUESTIONS

1. If you have proof that the application was indeed received by the PIO and he is denying it, it can be considered as a "deemed" denial or a "malafide" intent of the PIO.
This can be a ground of First Appeal.
PIO is liable for punishment in case 30 days are over and you have not received your information within the stipulated time.

2. Penalty under Section 209 can only be imposed by the CIC or SIC.
However, you can ask for "Disciplinary Action" as per prevalent rules and regulations in your First Appeal. Since Officer for First Appeal is a "officer higher in rank than the PIO" he can very well take such action.

3. File Notings are covered under RTI Act and are defined as "information".
Several decisions of the CIC in this regard.
Just visit CIC and search for "file notings".
Please also read:

Rana allowed access to file noting
http://www.rtiindia.org/forum/25-cit...under-rti.html
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karira ji,
thank you for your information.

I asked certified copies of some letters submitted by one Officer over the point of harrassment on him for properly recording the Huge losses to one CG undertaking company, for which some superiors are responsible.

Now these officers are trying to destroy all the proof that is available and they even not ready to disclose the letter written by that Officer.

They even life threatend him and his family, transfered and harrassing financially etc.,

He alone fighting for the justice and against corrupt practices adopted by some of the superiors.

If any body can suggest some thing, I will be thankful to them.

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In case of threat, I would suggest you to ask your friend or relative residing in other far away state to file for information, which you want.
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One of the solution is to file a 'Complaint' with the CIC and ask for the relief with the relevant details proving harassments.
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Re: CAN ANY BODY TELL, WHAT TO DO WHEN A CPIO GIVES WRONG INFORMATION STATING THAT HE DID NOT RECEIVED APPLICATION FOR WHAT WE ARE ASKING QUESTIONS

kushal ji,

how can we have the proof of harrashments done like threat given verbally and sending some people to residence etc.,

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Its your word against their's
Most of the times, the details of the case make it obvious whether it was necessary to resort to such tactics.
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karira ji,

i did not came to know what you wanted to tell by this post. Can you explain either here or on my mail please.

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Re: CAN ANY BODY TELL, WHAT TO DO WHEN A CPIO GIVES WRONG INFORMATION STATING THAT HE DID NOT RECEIVED APPLICATION FOR WHAT WE ARE ASKING QUESTIONS

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REQUEST TO ALL MEMBERS AND GUEST,

DEAR FRIENDS,

CAN ANY BODY TELL, WHAT TO DO WHEN A CPIO GIVES WRONG INFORMATION STATING THAT HE DID NOT RECEIVED APPLICATION FOR WHAT WE ARE ASKING QUESTIONS.

THE PROOF OF SUBMISSION OF APPLICATION IS AVAILABE WITH ME.

WHETHER THE INFORMATION PROVIDING AUTHORITY IS LIABLE FOR PUNISHMENT?

iF SO WHO WILL IMPOSE THE FINE TO INFORMATION PROVIDING AUTHORITY?

THE CPIO ALSO DENYING THE FILE NOTING, CAN ANY BODY TELL WHAT IS THE NEXT THAT WE HAVE TO DO?

SOME OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE HEADS THREATING OUR ENTIRE FAMILY.

I EXPECT SUGGESTIONS AND DIRECTIONS FROM PEOPLE AND RTI ACTIVIST.

MY EMAIL ADDRESS:[###################]

RA KATKAM.

Please apply to Appellate Authority with the proof>Not providing the information or misguiding is an offence.

adil
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karira ji,

I am waiting for your reply. can you please reply.

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Re: CAN ANY BODY TELL, WHAT TO DO WHEN A CPIO GIVES WRONG INFORMATION STATING THAT HE DID NOT RECEIVED APPLICATION FOR WHAT WE ARE ASKING QUESTIONS

If you have the proof of service of the RTI application, you can straight away knock the doors of the CIC and ask them to impose the maximum fine.

Even you can mention your threat to the CIC.

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thank you saravana ji,

you are correct.

I am thinking on that.

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For lodging complaint pl visit my blog where-in I have given proforma and procedure for filing complaint/appleal with CIC, Delhi. I hope it would be handy to you. All the best.
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jps50 ji,

Thank you for your reply. Whether without 1st appeal can we complaint to CIC.

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