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    To Review or Not to Review.....Strange order of the CIC !

    In a very strange order of the CIC, one of the IC's has granted himself the power to review based on certain Supreme Court orders.

    On the other hand we have the Chief Information Commissioner withdrawing the right to review.

    Is it that PA's/PIO's/FAA's have the right to review but appellants/complainants do not have it ?

    The arguments given in the review petition are also strange.
    They seem to be an afterthought to the CIC's own order.

    What was the PIO doing when he replied to the RTI Application ?
    What was the FAA doing when he passed his order ?
    What was the IC doing when he passed his order ?
    Why weren't the same arguments put forward at the time of the original hearing ? What was the representative of the PA doing at that time ?

    This way, PA's will use all opportunities at their disposal to have such "after thoughts".

    This particular IC has also been hearing cases of various Coal Companies/Organisations ever since he joined CIC. Members might also be interested in reading some of his orders related to Coal.

    The order is attached to this post.

    http://cic.gov.in/CIC-Orders/AT-16092009-06.pdf

    Is there a possibility of review or not ?
    How many applications for review by the appellant/complaint have been ever admitted by the CIC ?
    How many applications for review by the public authority have been admitted for review ?
    Someone should file a RTI application with CIC and find out.
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    Re: To Review or Not to Review.....Strange order of the CIC !

    11. The question whether the Commission has the power to review its own decision was elaborately discussed in Appeal No.CIC/MA/ A/2006/00622 (Rajnish Singh Chaudhary Vs. Union Public Service Commission). In this case, the Commission has relied on the decisions of the Apex Court in Patel Narshi Thakershi & Ors. Vs. Pradyumanshighji Arjunsinghji ⎯ (AIR 1970 SC 1273) and Rajendra Singh Vs. Governor, Andaman & Nicobar Islands & Ors. (AIR 2006 SC 75) and had observed as under:-
    “The net upshot of these two decisions of the Hon’ble Apex Court is that while in substantive matters there may arguably be no review. In cases of procedural infirmities which may have led to or may be believed to have led to miscarriage of justice or where there is an error apparent on the face of it, the absence of a provision for review shall not be a bar on a given statutory authority assuming that power. In other words, silence of law in regard to review does not prohibit a statutory authority from undertaking review in specific given circumstances.”

    The above item in your attachment clears any doubt on review. The Supreme Court has insisted that even if there is NO any expressive review option available in law, that does not prohibit any statuatory authority from undertaking review.

    In CIC management rules, review is an option. Hnece, when there is an apparent error in judgement, NO CIC can refuse to review and if he does NOT, he goes against the spirit of Supreme Court's observation which is ILLEGAL.

    But some CICs still review their decisions without any inhibition. (Pl see CIC decisions).

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    Re: To Review or Not to Review.....Strange order of the CIC !

    As per the laws of this land, power to review its own orders is inherent in every Court or Tribunal. The CIC has absolutely no power to refuce it. I do not know whether the CIC has ever rejected an application for review specifically ordering that "As per his own orders the orders cannot be reviewed". Such refusal in any case is not sustainable; but it will be futile to approach court on this issue as one is not likely to get any benefit after such enforced review.
    To me refusal to review is of same standing as bribe. What happen when an official say that a particular thing will not be done unless one pay the bribe? In the unlawful Management Regulation of his the CIC has unlawful delegated his power to reject an application to his Secretary. The same way some bureaucrate insist bribe, the secretary reject the review petition It is high time for some one to challenge the CIC's (Management) Regulation 2007 and similar Rules/Regulations enforced by him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by colnrkurup View Post
    As per the laws of this land, power to review its own orders is inherent in every Court or Tribunal. The CIC has absolutely no power to refuce it. I do not know whether the CIC has ever rejected an application for review specifically ordering that "As per his own orders the orders cannot be reviewed". Such refusal in any case is not sustainable; but it will be futile to approach court on this issue as one is not likely to get any benefit after such enforced review.
    APSIC is regularly refusing reviews saying that there is no such provision in the RTI Act.

    Maybe members can throw more light as to what is happening in other SIC's ?

    Quote Originally Posted by vijayK View Post
    But some CICs still review their decisions without any inhibition. (Pl see CIC decisions).
    That is the main problem.
    It should be either ALL or NONE - why only some ?
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    Re: To Review or Not to Review.....Strange order of the CIC !

    The Kerala State SIC has been allowing Review. Of cource with no positive change from their earlier decisions. The particular orders of Supreme court on review has already been brought out in one of my earlier postings on Review. So it is redundant to repeat it.

    I feel satisfied when at least members of this forum understand the above state of affairs where even the CIC is not capable of coordinating the functions of his own ICs to arrive at a uniform policy/decisions and despite holding Information Commissioner's Trade Union Conferences at Delhi, with the knowledge of Her/His Excellency The Presidents of india the orders of CIC & SICs continue to be contradictory

    This lead to one of my oft repeated plea for making the CIC and SICs accountable to a Central Agency entrusted with the responsibility to control and Coordination activities of CIC and all SICs - Establishment of Information Commission of India.

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    Re: To Review or Not to Review.....Strange order of the CIC !

    In the Narshi Thakershi's case SC had oberved :
    "It is well settled that the power to review is not an inherent power. It must be conferred by law either specifically or by necessary implication. No provision in the Act was brought to our notice from which it could be gathered that the Government had power to review its own order. If the Government had no power to review its own order, it is obvious that its delegate could not have"
    Following the ratio of Thakershi Narshi, SC in , GRINDLAYS BANK LTD. Vs. CENTRAL GOVERNMENT INDUSTRIAL TRIBUNAL AND ORS. ,one of the landmark judgments on review, explained as under:
    The expression 'review' is used in two distinct senses, namely (1) a procedural review which is either inherent or implied in a court or Tribunal to set aside a palpably erroneous order passed under a misapprehension by it, and (2) a review on merits when the error sought to be corrected is one of law and is apparent on the face of the record. It is in the latter sense that the Court in Narshi Thakershi's case held that no review lies on merits unless a status specifically provides for it. Obviously when a review is sought due to a procedural defect, the inadvertent error committed by the Tribunal must be corrected ex debito justitiae to prevent the abuse of its process, and such power inheres in every court or Tribunal
    Therefore, conclusion emerges , as Gujarat HC has observed in Atulbhai Balabhai Patel vs State Of Gujarat on 12 May, 1999
    12. In view of the above discussion, it is held that while the Gujarat Revenue Tribunal exercising the powers of revision under Section 76 of the Bombay Tenancy and Agricultural Lands Act, 1948 does not have the power of reviewing its own decision on the basis of any statutory provisions contained in the said Act or in the Bombay Revenue Tribunal Act, 1957, the Tribunal does have the inherent power of procedural review as explained by a Division Bench of this Court in the case of Ram Kirpal vs. Union of India & Anr. 39(3) GLR 1892.
    In nutshell
    (1) RTI Act does not contain any provisions for review (however word "review" is mentioned in Section 7 and 10)
    (2) therefore review on merits is not possible
    (3) however, CIC/SIC has inherent power to review on procedural defects
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