how to put an application for RTI, concerning property matter

[rider]

Hi,

this is Vijay, i am an engineer by profession and would like to know if someone can tell me about how to put an application for RTI, concerning
property related matters, to the assessment officer in BMC.

Looking forward to some suggestions from you all,

Thanx,
vijay

[maneesh]

Hello Vijay Welcome to RTI India
We have a lot of resource on how to file RTI application. Please read though the threads or try the search you will get a lot of material to start your application

[karira]

Can you please clarify your querry with more details.

Is it that you want to make a RTI Application to BMC assessment officer for property tax ?

[rider]

Hi Karira,
I m sorry in responding late, for your query ….Your guess is right. Yes it is regarding property Tax with respect to Sub Division of Property Tax Bills, I am enquiring this for my brother (a Doctor) who holds a property i.e. a Clinic which is a part of the whole property consisting of 4 shops. To explain in detail from the beginning, our grandfather was allotted an area to build a shop (hotel) on it in Dec' 48 after the partition as they were refugees. After the death of my grandfather in 1958, my father (a doctor) and his brothers subdivided the property in 4 Shops (unequal parts) according to the needs of their respective businesses by mutual oral agreement. My brother holds the same clinic (one of the part) which was owned by my father till his untimely demise in the year 1986, since then till date. The remaining 3 parts (shops) owned by my uncle’s were taken over by their wives (inheritors) after their demise. During these years out of 3 shops, 2 were sold by my aunts to the third parties – so now only 2 parts are owned by the original inheritors and the other 2 are the outsiders. Now the question here is how the property tax will be charged in such case where 2 parts (Shops) are owned by the original inheritors and the other 2 are the outsiders. (For your information uptill now the property tax is still being charged under my grandfather’s name for the same property as one). >>

My brother is apprehensive about the procedure being arbitrarily followed by ward office as there is no co-operation & no guidance given by them. He as well suspects collusion between staff of BMC & 2 new parties (Shop owners). As there are few more queries which he needs advice on, which cannot be disclosed here I therefore request you to provide your personal E mail address or Contact no. whichever is possible at your EARLIEST. I also once again apologize in responding late due to unavoidable circumstances,

[karira]

rider,

You can ask for the information that you have outlined in your post to the PIO of the Assessment Dept. or property tax department.
Alternatively you can also address the questions to the PIo of your local ward office, who will inturn forward it to the correct PIO for the information.

[rider]

Karira,

Thank you for your prompt response. I would also like to inform you that i have prepared the draft for putting up an RTI application which i need to send to you for any rectification and proper guidance as the matter needs urgent attention.Therefore if you can sms me your email add on my cell 09820890326 or if you require i can post my email add. accordingly.

[karira]

rider,

You can post your application draft here in word or pdf format.
This way other members of the forum will also be able to guide you.

[rider]

Hi, Karira
In the meanwhile I am sending a brief history about the property in discussion and in the next few minutes I will be posting the rough draft applications, which I will be submitting for RTI and to BMC, for which I may need your guidance.

[rider]

Hi karira,

Are you online at present, as i had a server problem since yesterday, am waiting for your reply

[karira]

rider,

I just got back.
Will have a look at the background tomorrow.

[karira]

rider,

I can at the best guide you on the RTI aspects, since I am not too confident of "property" laws etc....

1. Two RTI applications need to be filed:
First, with the Collector or registrars office with respect to "mutation/division" of the property and registering it as 4 separate units.
Second, with the assessment department.

2. In the RTI application to the assessment department, first ask for "inspection" of all records, files, correspondence, file notings, etc concerning the said property as well as state that during the inspection you will want certain "certified photocopies" from the records you inspect.
(This will give you a lot of inside information and you will come to understand what is going on behind the scenes as well as the sequence of events).

Some of your other questions need to be be slightly reframed:

1. What is the rateable value applied to the part inheritor of property and
justification/reasons for the same under Sec 4(1)(d) of the RTI Act 2005, since I am one of the affected persons. Please provide me certified copies of any calculations sheet used to arrive at the above rateable value.

(You can add another question here: Please give me certified copy of the rateable value and the calculations used to arrive at that rate, of any other similar property with similar area in the neighborhood of the above mentioned property).

2. Whether any complaints/views/submissions/communications have been received by any member of the public regarding this property Nr.........
If yes, please provide me certified copies of all such pages.
(This becomes a blanket coverage of everything....why do you want to restrict yourself to only the other 2 or 3 who are creating mischief ?).

3. As per meeting held between Mr Y and Mr ..., Mr ..., Mr ...., Mr .... in his cabin on 13th March 2008, Mr Y had suggested to us:
a)......
b).......
c)........

However, subsequently I received a notice increasing the rateable value of the property from Rs. ....... to Rs....... Since I am a affected person in this case, please inform me under Sec 4(1)(d) of the RTI Act 2005, reasons for such administrative decision of your department. The reasons given, should be backed and justified by certified copies of relevant laws, acts, rules, regulations, GO's, memos, etc justifying such action by your Public Authority.

4. What is the exact description of the property identified as........in your records.

5. How often and with what frequency are staff and officers of your department required to carry out surveys in the field to inspect properties in the area called....... to check whether the description, area, and other details of the property are correctly mentioned in your records ?
Please inform me the time and date of the last inspection carried out by your staff or officers of the property identified as.............?
Please provide me a certified copy of the last such inspection report where the property has been described as a "shed" ?
Please provide me Name, designation, office address, office telephone number of the Officer or Staff member who made the above mentioned report.

(Note: The above information is being asked for just to put the responsibility on the department as to why they are continuing with incorrect description as "shed" and fix responsibility on the person who is continuing to describe it as "shed")

6. Please provide me certified copies of rules and regulations under which your department can give me several notices mentioning "FINAL INTIMATION" ? Under these rules and regulations , how many such "FINAL NOTICES be given by your department.

7. Please inform me what is the correct procedure and steps to be followed to do the following:

(here describe the background, the current situation and what you want to be done...)

8. As per your departments rules and regulations, how long will it take to complete the procedure as you have described in item nr. 7 above ?

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Just go through the above, do the necessary grammatical corrections, add/delete what you feel is correct/incorrect and file the application.

Please remember that you need to file the application as per RTI Rules in Maharashtra. These are given in the following post:
http://www.rtiindia.org/forum/2370-n....html#post8213

All the Best !

[rider]

Hi Karira,

Many thanks for your help. i have prepared 2 appications to be submitted today for RTI as well as BMC as i have been asked by the staff of assessment dept. *(verbally) to approach the IO, as he only Visits on Friday every week. They have also informed me to meet the IO today itself, otherwisae he may give judgement (ex-parte) as the two other parties were summoned seperatelyand they have signed on 29th feb 08 for their appearance in front of him. (the same was informed to me yesterday afternoon itself)

* till date i have never acknowledged the notice given to me

[rider]

Karira,

Please also find the other application which i am going to submit in the BMC to the Asst. Assessor and Collector & IO, do let me know if their are any changes to make and if i have to submit the same seperately to Asst. Assessor and the IO or i can submit it as single copy at the despatch section. Whether i also have to acknowledge personally from the IO & Asst. Assessor after putting my application with the despatch dept.

[karira]

rider,

This is a general application. It looks OK to me.
Do you really want to mention that you are making a separate RTI Application to clarify things ?