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This is a discussion on Can a Secretary ask for any information? within the Ask for RTI Query forums, part of the RTI Community Support category; My Society Secretary asked for information under RTI Act from BMC after 30 days we received the reply that the applicant is not citizen and so information cannot be given ...
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| My Society Secretary asked for information under RTI Act from BMC after 30 days we received the reply that the applicant is not citizen and so information cannot be given as per RTI Act. |
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| Yes, only Citizen have the right to ask for information. Interpreting this, the Unions/Organizations cannot ask for information under Right to Information. You would like to read the decision of CIC here! http://www.rtiindia.org/forum/118-post1.html
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| yes nile, any organisation/society cannot ask for information under RTI, so, In your case, the application which was made to BMC was signed by the secretary on behalf of the society, BMC rejected the said application stating that since a society is not a citizen, the application is not covered under the RTI Act, but the intresting part is that if the same secretary applies again to BMC as an individual, then BMC is bound to reply, so apply as an individual, collect the information, forward the reply to the society and the society can use the information if it is supplied by its member, hope this helps you |
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| Thank you Pai for this citation. These replies make our forum livelier day by day. |
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| I happen to read the decision quoted by mPai. Quote:
@mpai Can you direct me to the previous decision where CIC had decided this?
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| Kushal, I have been able to trace the following decision of the CIC in this connection. Please find out if it is in order: 1.CIC/WB/A/2006/00336 dt 09.08.2006 (In the pdf format of the decision, the date is wrongly mentioned as 09.05.2006) |
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| Here are some of the cases where the "Associations" were allowed CENTRAL INFORMATION COMMISSION Appeal: No. CIC/OK/C/2006/ 00001 Dated, the 10th July, 2006 Name of the Appellant:The General Secretary, Hindustan Cables Ltd., VRS Employees Welfare Association, Hyderabad Name of the Public Authority : Hindustan Cables Ltd., Kolkata CENTRAL INFORMATION COMMISSION Appeal No.CIC/WB/A/ 2006/00364 Right to Information Act 2005 – Section 19 Appellant: Shri Sandeep Jain Respondent: India Meteorological Deptt. CENTRAL INFORMATION COMMISSION Appeal No. CIC/WB/A/2006/ 00313 dated 13.6.2006 Right to Information Act 2005 – Section 19 Appellant Shri Ravinder Balwani Respondents : Department of Power, Government of NCT of Delhi Maybe somebody would like to upload the appropriate CIC decisions. |
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| this was just the query I had, our building society has finally put in an application under RTI to the PIO of BMC but applicant he has advised us to put our housing society name with the treasurer signing on its behalf . We affixed a court fee stamp of Rs.10 with a self addressed envelope and an AD card attached for the info. to be provided by registered post. Oops hope its a really big cover since we have asked for ALL the documents submitted pertaining to our bldg. Hope we get the info. will let u all know the result. Celebrations are on in the BMC after the recent elections!! How do they give the required info- directly or do they send a reply first? |
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Why do some folks listen to people, who are not conversant with the Act themself? As per the Central Act. there is no need to attach self address envelope or AD Card. Only cost of photocopying or inspection of documents are applicable. Postage is generally paid for by the PIO's Office. |
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| thanks for that firing! honest, I had my doubts, but the committee thought better of a lawyer's opinion than a secretary's and justifiably! the application was filed under the Act of 2005. We have been told to pay in cash on receipt of documents. (to enquire after 7 working days since date of application which was 2nd feb.) by the way, they also didn't accept the self addressed envelope and ad card. |
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| Recently I came across a report in "The Telegraph", Calcutta, datelined 04 Feb.2007, that a former MP and secretary of CITU, Dipankar Mukherjee has been denied information under RTI, because he asked for it in his capacity as secretary of CITU. I am furnishing the link to this news item below: The Telegraph - Calcutta : Nation Despite several decisions by the CIC in this regard, it appears that the PIOs and AAs are not getting themselves acquainted with the latest under RTI. |
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Given a chance, even these same PIOs/AAs would file an RTI Application for their personal benefit ![]() |
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Reposting from another thread: There is a small article in today's Economic Times referring to the following decision of the CIC: http://cic.gov.in/CIC-Orders/Decision_17052007_04.pdf The article says that Companies can also file applications under RTI Act. can someone please clarify.. |
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Maybe future decisions would let us know more about this subject. |
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Tell the secretary to request for the information in his name. In this case also, if the authority deny information, he may appeal first to FAA and then to the Information Commission (state/central), if necessary. |
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