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This is a discussion on Written submission during appeals within the Ask for RTI Query forums, part of the RTI Community Support category; Dear Sir, I send you a note on the experience I had during the 2nd hearing on my 2nd appeals held by Hon SCIC, Lucknow on 17.04.07 just for your ...
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Dear Sir, I send you a note on the experience I had during the 2nd hearing on my 2nd appeals held by Hon SCIC, Lucknow on 17.04.07 just for your information and advice as to how best it should be handled now for expeditious action by Hon SCIC, Lucknow. I will be happy to come and iscuss this matter with you and your experts at any time you may like to fix for this purpose. My two 2nd appeals, were first taken up for hearing by Hon SCIC (Sri Saxena) in his office on 30.03.07. Written submissions were made by me with regard to both these cases on that day. PIO Noida Authority did not submit any written statement/submission on the status of supply of information asked for by me and only submitted duplicate Photostat copies of some information he had already sent to me in the past. He could not confirm if the required information as asked for and mentioned in my written submissions was really supplied by him on my applications. Hon SCIC (Sri Saxena) therefore postponed the hearing for 17.04.07 and directed the Respondant PIO to ensure and confirm that all the information asked for by the applicant is provided by that date. During the second hearing on 17.04.07, Respondant PIO again did not submit any written statement/submission on the status of supply of information asked for by me and only submitted duplicate Photostat copies of some more letters he had already sent to me in the past. In the meanwhile, I had received copies of some documents from Noida Authority file got inspected by me on 20.02.06, after the hearing on 30.03.07, and found that some information supplied was incomplete and some misleading and/or false. I had informed PIO, Noida Authority about these inconsistencies vide my letter dated 10.04.07 to him. Based on all these developments, I prepared my written submission again for submission to Hon SCIC (Sri M A Khan) during the 2nd hearing on 17.04.07 (attached herewith as Annex 1). Sri M A Khan, Hon SCIC, Lucknow however did not accept the same during the hearing. He remarked, without reading my submission or asking any clarifications from Respondant PIO, that I was unnecessarily trying to prolong the matter and directed that I file a separate complaint in this regard for further orders. This means, on the one hand, that proper supply of full information on my applications pending since 15.11.06 and 11.12.06 will be delayed further due to lack of requisite orders by Hon SCIC, Lucknow and my having to submit another complaint to Hon SCIC, Lucknow u/s 18(e) of RIA 05, wait for a date of hearing on it (which may take another say 3 months) and on the other hand, that it will help in increasing the number of appeal/complaint cases being handled by the office of Hon SCIC, Lucknow, whereas the efforts of Hon SCIC, Lucknow should be to reduce the same. This experience also shows that whereas Mr Saxena, Hon SCIC, Lucknow did take the written submission from me during the first hearing on 30.03.07 and directed the Respondant to ensure and confirm that all the information asked for by the appelant is provided by 17.04.07, the second date fixed by him for hearing in this matter, Sri M A Khan, Hon CIC, Lucknow who was present at the 2nd hearing on 17.04.07 did not accept my written submission, did not like to direct the Respondant PIO, Noida Authority to supply a written submission under copy to me on the points raised in my 1st and 2nd submissions regarding supply of information found incomplete, misleading and/or false u/s 18(e) of RTIA 05, did not like to penalize PIO, Noida Authority or the official concerned, as may be identified by him, for causing such abnormal delays in supply of information, as recorded under Section II of y 2nd submission, under section 20(1) of the Right to Information Act 2005 and did not provide me relief u/s 19(8)(b) of RTIA 05, if it is proved that information provided by PIO, Noida Authority against para 1 of Section 1 of my 2nd submission, regarding approval of change of use status of cabin nos 206, 207 & 208 from Industrial Software to Commercial in Feb 06 was false, by directing the Respondant, Noida Authority, to restore cabins 206, 207 & 208 to the Appelant's Coy, Eclipse Systems Pvt Ltd, extending it's rent lease deed for further 5 yrs as per rules in force, compensating it for all the losses incurred by it due to the sealing of it's offices on 24.11.06 on the pretext of this false change in use status of these cabins, and ordering disciplinary action against the officials who submitted such false information. I shall be grateful if some of your experts could advise me of the proper future course of action that I should adopt to get early relief in this matter. Your samiti may also like to take up to take up this case with Hon SCIC, Lucknow in the wider interest of proper implementation of RTI Act 05. Thanking you and assuring you of my full cooperation in this vital campaign, Sincerely, (M K Singhal) Attached: Copy of my 2nd submission dated 17.04.07 not accepted by Hon SCIC, Lucknow during the 2nd hearing on 17.04.07 |
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Dear Sir, I have a number of cases pending with Hon'ble SCIC, UP, Lucknow office. I would be grateful if you could clarify me on the following points as far as known to you and pressurize/take up these points for implementation by the Office of Hon SCIC, Lucknow through your esteemed NGO, if deemed fit by you.
My two 2nd appeals, were first taken up for hearing by Hon SCIC in his office on 30.03.07. Written submissions were made by me with regard to both these cases on that day. PIO Noida Authority did not submit any written statement/submission on the status of supply of information asked for by me and only submitted duplicate Photostat copies of some information he had already sent to me in the past. He could not confirm if the required information as asked for and mentioned in my written submissions was really supplied by him on my applications. Hon SCIC therefore postponed the hearing for 17.04.07 and directed the Respondent PIO to ensure and confirm that all the information asked for by the applicant is provided by that date. During the second hearing on 17.04.07, Respondent PIO again did not submit any written statement/submission on the status of supply of information asked for by me and only submitted duplicate Photostat copies of some more letters he had already sent to me in the past. In the meanwhile, I had received copies of some documents from Noida Authority file got inspected by me on 20.02.06, after the hearing on 30.03.07 and found that some information supplied was incomplete and some misleading and/or false. I had informed PIO, Noida Authority about these inconsistencies vide my letter dated 10.04.07 to him. Based on all these developments, I tried to submit my written submission again to Hon SCIC (Sri M A Khan) on 17.04.07 but he did not accept the same. He remarked, without reading my submission or asking any clarifications from Respondant PIO, that I was unnecessarily trying to prolong the matter and directed that I file a separate complaint in this regard for further orders. This means, on the one hand, that proper supply of full information on my applications pending since 15.11.06 and 11.12.06 will be delayed further due to lack of requisite orders by Hon SCIC, Lucknow and, on the other hand, that it will help in increasing the number of appeal/complaint cases being handled by the office of Hon SCIC, Lucknow, if it is of any significance to him.
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| Hello Shri. Singhal, Your post is more of a suggestion for improving the operative parts of SCIC office there fore I am transferring this post from 'Ask for RTI query' to 'RTI General Discussions". On a similar post was made by you which I have added to the 'Suggestion for improvement of RTI' thread in the same 'RTI General Discussion' forum.
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M K Singhal, The following thread will be of interest to you: State info panel turns one: People unhappy with prevalent machinery What you complained about 2 months ago is coming to boil now. |
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