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This is a discussion on Application for Second Appeal within the Ask for Framing an RTI Question forums, part of the RTI Community Support category; I have written the following application for the Second Appeal. Can anyone help me with it ? The Central Information Commissioner, Central Information Commission, Sir, MOST URGENT Subject : Appeal ...
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I have written the following application for the Second Appeal. Can anyone help me with it ? The Central Information Commissioner, Central Information Commission, MOST URGENT As per the provisions of the RTI Act, 2005, I had applied for information (copy of application enclosed) to the Public Information Officer, |
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Sanjay1, I addition to what Kushal said, you neet to self attest the documents as well as give a index of the documents reffered in the appeal. Please see: http://www.cic.gov.in/CIC-Notifications/CIC%20Appeal%20Rules.pdf This will make all things clear. |
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one point is not clear to me. For the second appeal should I give five copies of the second appeal or all the other copies i.e copy of application, copy of 1st appeal or if any reply received etc should also be sent 5 copies each ? Or only the 2nd appeal( 5 copies ) will be sent with one copy each of the enclosure ? Abhijeet |
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Abhijeet, There is confusion about this issue. The CIC has recently passed The CIC (Management) Regulation Rules. Please see: "The Central Information Commission (Management) Regulations, 2007" However, I read somewhere that the Rules have been kept in abeyance since there was a hue and cry from the public and even objections by one IC. Visit the CIC website (CIC) and you will get the present rules for second appeal very clearly. Follow those to the letter "t", to avoid disappointment. |
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I came across a recent decision of CIC from which I am furnishing the following extracts: Because the 1st appellate authority has not addressed the questions of appellant, which are of direct concern to the office of his public authority and because appellant has pleaded no ground for making a direct complaint to us u/s 18, or apprehension of malafide on the part of the DoPT, the Commission has decided to remand this appeal to Director IIFM, 1st appellate authority who is directed to dispose of the appeal of Ms Banerjee within 10 working days from the date of receipt of this decision, under intimation to Shri PK Shreyaskar, Jt Registrar, Central Information Commission. If not satisfied with the information so provided appellant Ms Banerjee will be free to move a fresh 2nd appeal before us as per Sec 19 (3). [Decision in respect of Appeal No CIC/WB/A/2007/00131 dated 05.02.2007]. Strangely in this case, the CIC has not called for the comments of the CPIO & AA to decide the matter, but has simply remanded it back to the AA because the appellant has not pleaded any complaint u/s 18. This suggests to all the appellants to invariably make a complaint on any one of the grounds listed u/s 18(1), while filing their appeals. Last edited by ganpat1956; 09-01-2007 at 11:20 PM. |
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So one has to print five copies of the 2nd Appeal as described by kushal, Karira, Ganpat1956 etc. above. Send one copy each to the respondents i.e. the PIO & AA. If the name of the AA is not know, the copy should be mailed to the Head of Deptt. The proof of this should be obtained. Best is to send the copies to the PIO & AA under certificate of posting. Two copies have to be sent to the CIC along with the photocopy of the proof of having served this notice to the respondents. A photocopy of the UPC should serve the purpose. The 5th copy if for you as the applicant ;-) Ganpat1956 I believe that the CIC does not call for the comments of the CPIO & AA because your 2nd appeal has been drafted well. In this case, they simply call you and the respondents directly for the hearing. Of course, they also ask the respondents to come with all papers for the hearing. In some case, this is a positive approach by the CIC as the time for calling comments and filing rejoinder is time tasking. Best wishes Manoj |
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Also whenever you get find any violation of Section 4 by the same PA, do highlight this in your 2nd appeal. Manoj |
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Please see: CIC vacation plan to cripple RTI and http://www.rtiindia.org/forum/1266-c....html#post4375 Karira |
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| Second appeal to CIC under sec 19(3) is required to filed in a proforma prescribed in the Central Information Commissison (Appeal Procedure) Rules, 2005 published in Gazette notification dated 28th Oct.,2005. |
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To the best of my knowledge in a University, Registrar is PIO and Vice chancellor is FAA. Is it different in every univ. ? I think jps50 has earlier posted a very good all encompassing 2nd application procedure. I request him to do the needful afresh. Last edited by slchowdhary; 05-01-2008 at 12:53 PM. Reason: addition of request |
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As for ganpat's question ,the applicant must have a reason as to why is he/she prefering second appeal.This is not only as per requirement of CIC but very much stands to reason.If you have no reasons under sec18,then why go for second appeal. |
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The Central Information Commission (Management) Regulations, 2007 Quote:
Sec 18 for Complaints and Sec 19 for Second Appeal. |
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I had filed detailed step-by-step guidelines for filing rti application, first appeal and second appeal/complaint to cic for central govt info in my blogs. However because of technical problems, old blogs are not on website. I shall be in a day or two reloading these blogs for the benefit of rti users.
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I am citing a portion of the decision by CIC in case no. F.No.CIC/AT/C/2007/00372 Dated, the 22nd February, 2008 in which the issue of complaint and appeal appear to have been decided as follows:- "The initial few words of Section 18 are significant. These read as “Subject to the provisions of this Act…...”. Constructively interpreted, these would imply that Section 18 should be invoked provided other provisions of this Act, relevant to the subject of the petition, have been earlier invoked, or, if there are grounds to hold that the petitioner was prevented from invoking those provisions to seek appropriate relief. That is to say, where the avenue of first-appeal under Section 19(1) is available to a petitioner, he should not be encouraged to skip that level and reach the Commission in complaint under Section 18, especially when the relief sought by him could be best provided through the appellate process. Section 18 cannot be allowed to be used as a substitute for Section 19 of the Act." I think this decision should remove the confusion. Please advice. adil85 Last edited by adil85; 05-01-2008 at 09:50 PM. Reason: spelling mistakes |
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