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    Default Office Memorandum of DoPT regarding SEction 7(9) of RTI ACT


    Hi,

    as per new notification DoPT have directed that section 7(9) means only to the physical form of the information, and no deducing of information from the records.

    I am sorry but I do not know much about DoPT rules, circulars. Is this office memorandum means an ammendment to RTI Act. If it is implemented right away.

    Please suggest



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    Default Re: Office Memorandum of DoPT regarding SEction 7(9) of RTI ACT


    wether in promotion through limited departmental comptitive examination the CR grading in the form of marks may pull down the status of the candidate who has got higher marks in examination.

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    Default Re: Office Memorandum of DoPT regarding SEction 7(9) of RTI ACT


    Quote Originally Posted by navdeep View Post
    Hi,

    as per new notification DoPT have directed that section 7(9) means only to the physical form of the information, and no deducing of information from the records.

    I am sorry but I do not know much about DoPT rules, circulars. Is this office memorandum means an ammendment to RTI Act. If it is implemented right away.

    Please suggest
    The RTI Act has been enacted by Parliament. An act passed by Parliament can only be amended by Parliament.

    The DoPT circular you are referring to is only a circular for guidance purposes. They are not the Bhagwad Gita.

    Even PIO's/AA's and IC's refer only to those circulars which are convenient to them and ignore the others. When we applicants refer to the circulars convenient to us, the PIO's/AA's/IC's will tell you "Oh that is only a Circular".

    So, please follow the same attitude. When anyone quotes a DoPT circular, just say "Oh that is only a circular. Is it a Law or in the Act somewhere ? Has it been Gazetted ?".

    That will be the end of the story of the Circular.

    DoPT circulars are available in this section of the forum: RTI News, Circulars and Decisions - RTI Act & Circulars at rtiindia.org
    Twitter: @cjkarira

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    Default Re: Office Memorandum of DoPT regarding SEction 7(9) of RTI ACT



    The DoPT circular you are referring to is only a circular for guidance purposes. They are not the Bhagwad Gita.
    Or, rather, these circulars are just the Bhagvad Gita: invoke when convenient, distort when not, plead ignorance when confronted!
    -- पूराब्यौरा

    Then God said, "Let there be light"... but we said, no, we want first the RTI! Then we will light up our own lives, and those of our fellow beings. But God said, "No, I can't. I am not a fool to open my books to you. Go away!"

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    Default Re: Office Memorandum of DoPT regarding SEction 7(9) of RTI ACT


    Yes.

    The PAs like DOPT/ DOPWs etc who deal with the Service matters and after-service Entitlement matters do somersaulting quite often.

    Purabyoura's comments are cent per-cent correct.

    OMs and Circulars are "executive instructions" only. They are "clarifications" when issued successively to the original OM or Order or Circular. When convenient "modifications" are mode to the "original circular" itself in the garb of "clarifications".

    Courts can not understand this deep game of "modifications" vs "clarifications".

    For example in an "original order"-if there are several items conveying Gov's decisions"- if objections are raised on some of them, "modifications" are made by the Authority
    in the garb of "clarifications" in some and real "clarifications" are given for others. When you contest in the courts, the items "calrified" are quoted to convince the judge that the succeding order was only "clarificatory" in nature and hence it can not nullified. We are suffering due to the same at present!

    Article 77 is invoked in the courts of law to convince the judge that the executive Ministries/ Deptts. have executive powers to frame rules/ issue instructions
    on behalf of the President as a matter of their chartered roles and
    routine, and for carrying out the administration .

    THE SYSTEM IS SO NAUSEATING THAT BY THE TIME YOU OVERCOME THE GRIEVANCE THAT WAS CAUSED BY A CIRCULAR OR OM, ANOTHER ONE SPRINGS UP WITH GREATER PERPETRATION OF THE VERY GRIEVANCE IN ANOTHER FORM IN NO TIME AND NEUTRALISES ANY RELIEF YOU MIGHT HAVE GOT.

    What is surprising is- the notings/ draft OMs-circulars put up by "lower-most" heirarchial levels are not at all examined questioned or commented - remarked upon by senior levels/ higher ups (hefty salaries for little work!!!)in the heirarchy - even in very vital service/ pension matters - and often this leads to the main problem.

    I know someone will object to this.

    BuT THIS IS HARSH TRUTH. Half a dozen confrontations coming up in March 2010 as litigations all over the country is an example.
    Last edited by vnatarajan; 02-27-2010 at 09:39 AM.



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