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    6 Hours Ago
    karira replied to a thread Haj Subsidy in Ask for RTI Query
    It might also be interesting to find out if any State Govt is also offering any direct/indirect subsidy for this purpose. But those RTI applications will have to be addressed to each State Govt. separately.
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  • karira's Avatar
    1 Day Ago
    You have to go into further details, like how much land, what is the value being charged ? Is it market value ? Is there a subsidy involved ? How much is the subsidy ? Is there any other financial assistance to that organisation ? Only then can you decide whether the entity is under RTI or not.
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    1 Day Ago
    karira replied to a thread online rti query in Ask for RTI Query
    Please check the link.....it says "file removed".
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    1 Day Ago
    Refusal by a Government servant to accept a Complaint is an offence. If he is not accepting in person, send the same via Registered Post or Speed Post. Track it online on the indiapost website and keep a print out after it is delivered. Wait for a few weeks and then file a RTI, as suggested by other members.
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  • karira's Avatar
    1 Day Ago
    Here is the original order: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCYQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rtiindia.org%2Fforum%2Fattachments%2Frti-general-discussions%2F5741d1326455793-complaints-against-supreme-court-variopus-high-courts-cic-order-sec-4-various-high-courts&ei=S6UCVMm5HoW58gWSmIKYAw&usg=AFQjCNHsRtT5Aisorjuf65cJPgoaAlZMow&sig2=9idk_33m38iGhyZWpCcv1A&bvm=bv.74115972,d.c2E =============== It depends on IC to IC - some register and listen to Complaints on Sec 4. Some of them just return it.
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  • Shrawan Pathak's Avatar
    1 Day Ago
    A new poll has been created for the RTI nomination . Please vote for your favorite!
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  • karira's Avatar
    3 Days Ago
    Please read the RTI Rules for the Centre and different States. Some of the RTI Rules do prescribe the method for serving Notice and copies. One of the prescribed methods is "serving by parties themselves". In a few notices for hearing I have received from the CIC, I have been asked to send the copies of the second appeal / complaint (with all attachments) to the PIO/FAA, well before the date of the hearing. But there is no rule regarding the number of copies to be submitted. It was there in the earlier "CIC Management Regulations", which were struck down by the Delhi High Court.
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  • karira's Avatar
    3 Days Ago
    karira replied to a thread RTI Point of View: CIC website believes only Obama is 'RTI News'! in RTI in Media
    I had made the same Complaint to CIC long back in 2012. Sent 7 (SEVEN) reminders and nothing happened. Finally gave up ! http://www.rtiindia.org/forum/96260-complaint-cic-regarding-antiquated-information-its-website.html
    2 replies | 117 view(s)
  • karira's Avatar
    3 Days Ago
    This is very funny ! CIC is refusing to hear Complaints filed with it regarding Sec 4 suo-motu (proactive) disclosure. AND, the Government is now asking the same CIC to design a framework for proactive disclosure audit !
    1 replies | 97 view(s)
  • karira's Avatar
    3 Days Ago
    The detailed circular from DoPT and the application forms for grant are available here: http://www.rtiindia.org/forum/128579-dopt-grants-aits-sics-2014-a.html
    2 replies | 203 view(s)
  • Shrawan Pathak's Avatar
    3 Days Ago
    Dear Members Welcome to the Chit-chat forum. As you all know that our's is Right to Information related forum and we actively participate in helping our members in RTI related query e.t.c. These forums can be accessed here: Ask for RTI Query Ask for framing RTI Query However, as we expanded we found that lot many are queries being raised were completely un related to RTI so we started a new forum called 'Non RTI Issue' forum. Though not our team competence, many members who have expertise in other such areas try to help. However, this forum is completely meant for issues and off topic discussions. Our's is a community and not just question-answer forum, therefore we have this general discussion forum. Here are some of the rules: No RTI or Non RTI related queries are to be raised in this forum. No questions should posted This forum can be used to post any views which can invoke discussions and help in knowledge of others and which are not related to RTI. Hope you all enjoy this forum and connect with members of varied interest and hobbies. :thk:
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  • Shrawan Pathak's Avatar
    3 Days Ago
    These posts are not selected by team but by members themselves. They are community selected ones. (This information has already been given to all team members here). On every bottom of the post there is an option to 'Nominate' in blue colour. Please use and encourage others to choose that. Screen shot below: The top nominated posts only go in for the poll for the next week.
    2 replies | 232 view(s)
  • karira's Avatar
    3 Days Ago
    karira replied to a thread no parking fine in Non RTI Issues
    Check the website of the MP Traffic Police. This is for Bhopal: Welcome To Bhopal Traffic Police
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  • karira's Avatar
    3 Days Ago
    Can you please upload the order of the CIC / SIC ? It can be used as a citation by our other members.
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  • karira's Avatar
    3 Days Ago
    CIC rules that ALL High Courts are under its jurisdiction The CIC has finally passed an order dated 14 Aug 2014 (but uploaded on the website today - document created on 26 Aug 2014 at 3:12:14 PM by Raman Pal), upon the remanded matter from the Madras High Court. The issue posed by the High Court to the CIC was whether CIC has jurisdiction to decide second appeals and complaints related to High Courts. CIC has ruled that: 20. In the light of the above discussion and in the circumstances of the case, we are of the view that the Central Information Commission, while having the jurisdiction to entertain a second appeal under section 19 and a complaint under section 18 of the RTI Act, does not have the jurisdiction to entertain the complaint under reference by virtue of its contents. Decision: 21. We are of the view that the Commission does not have the jurisdiction to test the legal validity of any provision of the Act or the rules framed thereunder. We are in agreement with the view taken in case no.CIC/AT/A/2008/01137 mentioned above. Thus, this Commission does not have the jurisdiction to entertain the complaint made by Shri C.J. Karira. Full order of the CIC is attached to this post.
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  • karira's Avatar
    3 Days Ago
    The CIC has finally passed an order dated 14 Aug 2014 (but uploaded on the website today - document created on 26 Aug 2014 at 3:12:14 PM by Raman Pal), upon the remanded matter from the Madras High Court. The issue posed by the High Court to the CIC was whether CIC has jurisdiction to decide second appeals and complaints related to High Courts. CIC has ruled that: 20. In the light of the above discussion and in the circumstances of the case, we are of the view that the Central Information Commission, while having the jurisdiction to entertain a second appeal under section 19 and a complaint under section 18 of the RTI Act, does not have the jurisdiction to entertain the complaint under reference by virtue of its contents. Decision: 21. We are of the view that the Commission does not have the jurisdiction to test the legal validity of any provision of the Act or the rules framed thereunder. We are in agreement with the view taken in case no.CIC/AT/A/2008/01137 mentioned above. Thus, this Commission does not have the jurisdiction to entertain the complaint made by Shri C.J. Karira. Full order of the CIc is attached to this post.
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  • karira's Avatar
    3 Days Ago
    But how can the RPSC decide to pay the penalty on behalf of the PIO ? Which clause gives it such powers ?
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  • karira's Avatar
    3 Days Ago
    In the attached order dated 24 Aug 2014, CIC has recommended to the Delhi HC to reduce the application fees by amending its RTI Rules. Hence Commission finds that the rule and practice of the respondent public authority in this case, in relation to the exercise of its functions under this Act as far as imposition of fee of Rs 50 for first appeal is concerned, does not conform with the provisions and spirit of this Act. Invoking the duty to recommend under Section 25(5) of RTI Act, the Commission, therefore, recommends the respondent Public Authority, the Honíble Delhi High Court, to amend the rules to bring it in conformity with RTI Act, for effective provision of access to information and to bring uniformity with the rules made by DoPT which are also followed by the Supreme Court. The copy of this order shall be sent to concerned High Courts, to bring the rules in conformity with RTI Act and DoPT Rules.
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  • karira's Avatar
    3 Days Ago
    The full order of the CIC, referred to in the above decision is attached to this post.
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  • karira's Avatar
    4 Days Ago
    How to appoint a CIC even if there is no Leader of the Opposition A Committee comprising PM and the Leader of Opposition, recommends CICs names. Since, at present there is no Leader of Opposition, a recently-retired CIC has not been replaced. How to get around it? The replacement for the Chief Information Commissioner (CIC), who retired last week cannot be appointed since the Leader of Opposition (LoP) is missing. This is a matter of concern since no Central Information Commissioner can be appointed unless there is a Leader of Opposition. If the LoP is installed, then the Committee comprising the Prime Minister, Leader of Opposition and one other minister, could be set up and the statutory requirement could be met. It is hoped that the Lok Sabha Speaker will ultimately decide to nominate the Leader of Opposition, instead of only trying to repay the Congress in its coin. However, it may be useful to consider the calibre of Commissioners appointed by this process and question it. The present Commissioners are not delivering and they are usually selected as a reward in dispensation of patronage. The average disposal per Commissioner is less than 2,300 cases annually, though its website states that there is a norm of clearing 3,200 cases by each Commissioner. There is a need to set up a transparent rational process for selecting commissioners and getting them to be accountable. We should also demand that at least 30% of the commissioners should be well recognised Right to Information (RTI) activists so that the citizens perspective remains in the commission. The writer suggests following process for the selection: 1. The Government should advertise openings to appoint Information Commissioners depending on the need, at least six months in advance. Some proper criteria must be developed for this. Eminent individuals could apply or be nominated by others. 2. A pre-selection committee consisting of (possibly) two members of Parliament (MPs), Chief Information Commissioner, one Vice Chancellor, one Supreme Court judge and two RTI activists could be formed to shortlist a panel which could be three times the number of Commissioners to be selected. These could be announced with the minutes of the meeting at which the short listing is done. 3. An interview should be conducted by the search committee in public view, to give citizens and media the opportunity to hear the views of the prospective candidates. Citizens could give feedback and views to the pre-selection committee. Subsequently, the committee could present its recommendation for twice the number of Commissioners to be appointed. Based on these inputs, the final decision to select the Commissioners could be taken by the Committee as per the Act consisting of Prime Minister, Leader of Opposition and one Minister. (A similar process could be adopted for State Commissions with members of Legislative AssemblyĖ MLAs instead of MPs and High Court judge instead of Supreme Court judge). (Shailesh Gandhi served as Central Information Commissioner under the RTI Act, 2005, during 18 September 2008 to 6 July 2012. He is a graduate in Civil Engineering from IIT-Bombay. Before becoming a full time RTI activist in 2003, he sold his packaging business. In 2008, he was conferred the Nani Palkhivala Memorial Award for civil liberties.)
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  • karira's Avatar
    4 Days Ago
    DoPT has issued a Circular for issuing of grants to AITs and SICs for the year 2014. The same are attached. Also attached is the 2 page application form.
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  • karira's Avatar
    4 Days Ago
    ‘Dead’ RTI activist found in K’taka, arrested AAP leader and RTI activist Chandramohan Sharma, who was reportedly found charred to death in his car in Greater Noida on 1 May, has been located in Karnataka with a female friend. Police sources have said that Sharma has been arrested by the Karnataka Police and a team from Noida has also been sent to bring him for further probe. Meanwhile, the Superintendent of Police (Rural) has denied any such report of his finding and said that the matter is still being investigated. ‘Although we are investigating the matter, we have no such information about his arrest,’ said Brajesh Kumar Singh, SP (Rural). If police sources are to be believed, a mentally challenged person had gone missing on the same day of the incident and there might be a possibility that Sharma had hatched a conspiracy of his own murder by killing the mentally disabled person and placing his body inside the car. Police sources also claim that the Noida cops got information about his presence in Karnatka two days back and later contacted the state police for his arrest. It is also being said that his female friend has also been arrested along with Chandramohan and will be brought to the city on Wednesday. Chandramohan’s wife Sabita said that she already had information about his presence in Karnataka through local police. Read More: ‚€˜Dead‚€™ RTI activist found in K‚€™taka, arrested | Millennium Post
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  • karira's Avatar
    5 Days Ago
    As usual, the headline of the news report is misleading ! The matter was against lower court The order is available here: http://www.rti.india.gov.in/cic_decisions/CIC_AD_A_2013_001687-SA_M_138011.pdf http://www.rti.india.gov.in/cic_decisions/CIC_AD_A_2013_001720-SA_M_138015.pdf I really don't know why the IC is going into all this.....the CIC should simply hear my pending 15 cases against various High Courts (for their RTI Rules) and decide the matter once and for all.
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  • karira's Avatar
    5 Days Ago
    Here is the direct link: http://www.rtiindia.org/forum/docs/court-judgements-rti-issues/314-fir-missing-file-reconstruction-also ======== Please note that several other High Court and Supreme Court Judgments are available in our Downloads section: http://www.rtiindia.org/forum/docs/
    3 replies | 844 view(s)
  • karira's Avatar
    6 Days Ago
    karira replied to a thread Gas connection in Ask for RTI Query
    Please read the following. Print out the relevant documents (after downloading them). Then confront the Gas Dealer with those documents and threaten to complain against him to the Oil Marketing Company. Buy a stove or you won't get the new Gas Connection! - Government Concerns - National Concerns Initiatives https://www.rtiindia.org/forum/3995-dealers-here-insisting-buy-new-gas-stove.html https://www.rtiindia.org/forum/125166-gas-agencies-hyderabad-giving-stove-made-mandatory.html
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  • karira's Avatar
    6 Days Ago
    It should also be there on the website of the state legislature. please check the websites first.
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  • karira's Avatar
    6 Days Ago
    First, please check whether the association is under RTI or not. In general associations are not under RTI - unless they are substantially financed or controlled by the government.
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  • karira's Avatar
    6 Days Ago
    Such type of information should not be disclosed by the police and should be denied under Sec 8(1)(g)
    9 replies | 314 view(s)
  • karira's Avatar
    6 Days Ago
    karira replied to a thread Rti for my father in Ask for RTI Query
    The matter is very old......more than 12 years passed since retirement. Even if you get the information you want, you will not be able to pursue much due to passage of time.
    8 replies | 234 view(s)
  • karira's Avatar
    6 Days Ago
    Member G.L.N. Prasad has given the best and only workable suggestion.
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  • karira's Avatar
    6 Days Ago
    Members, PLEASE stop filing Second Appeals and Complaints online with CIC ! As per "inside" information I have, there are more than 6000 such cases "missing" from CIC records. They cannot find anything - no hard copy, no soft copy, no nothing ! Apart from above, as per my "insider" information another 4000 second appeals/complaints (filed on line) are yet to be registered. Just resend by hard copy. After 2 weeks file RTI (with PIO of CIC) to get the diary number. After 2 months file RTI (with PIO of CIC) to get the Registration number After 4 months file RTI (with PIO of CIC) to get the name of the IC in whose registry the appeal/complaint is lying and what is the serial number in the pendency list. Repeat the above (the last RTI) every 4 months thereafter - till you receive the Notice of Hearing. That is the ONLY way to ensure that they do not mess up with your second appeal / complaint. =================== In some cases, even after hearing, you will have to file RTI to get to know whether order has been passed and when was it uploaded to the website. =================== PS: Even after all those RTIs, you might have to still file another RTI to find out which version of the order is correct.....the one you received by speed post OR the one which was uploaded on the CIC website !
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  • karira's Avatar
    1 Week Ago
    Two threads by the same member , on the same issue (Payees name on DD) have been merged.
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  • karira's Avatar
    1 Week Ago
    After submitting your second appeal, you will ONLY hear from the SIC if: - The appeal is not admitted OR - When appeal is scheduled for hearing, you will get a "Notice of Hearing" In the meantime, you can try to get the "inward" or "diary" number of your second appeal in the TNSIC and also try to get the registration number of the second appeal. You can try to get these by phone/or though the website. If not possible, then you can file a RTI with the PIO of the TNSIC and get the two numbers for future reference.
    7 replies | 189 view(s)
  • karira's Avatar
    1 Week Ago
    Under Sec 4(1)(b)(x), it is obligatory to disclose the "monthly remuneration" and the "system of compensation". The pay slip contains other details like different deductions (for tax, PF, PPF, LIC, etc.), etc...which might fall under Sec 8(1)(j). Hence the PIO can give the pay slip after severing that information, which is deniable.
    19 replies | 462 view(s)
  • karira's Avatar
    1 Week Ago
    NO ! Why should the IC not always have "better sense" ? It is only that the Hon'ble ICs wife was kind enough to put less chillies in his Omlette or Sambhar for Breakfast the day your order was dictated.
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  • karira's Avatar
    1 Week Ago
    There is a CSR section in the Companies Act and also the CSR rules notified by the Government. Just google for them.
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  • karira's Avatar
    1 Week Ago
    In the first appeal, demand that the "pay slip" be provided to you after the PIO follows the procedure prescribed in Sec 10 (severance of deniable information).
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  • karira's Avatar
    1 Week Ago
    How come you are realising now about some CIC order that was passed in 2009 ? The "review petition" has to be filed with the same Commissioner who passed that order and not with the CPIO of CIC. In any case Mr PKP Shreyaskar was a corrupt officer who has now been removed from CIC. He was capable of doing anything ! Even approaching the HC now might be futile since you will have to explain the long delay to the court.
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  • karira's Avatar
    1 Week Ago
    The following will add more to your knowledge about Speed Breakers: Speed Breakers specifications - RTI Directory https://www.google.co.in/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=speed%20breaker%20site%3Awww.rtiindia.org
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  • karira's Avatar
    1 Week Ago
    It is just a matter of one day.....if the information is importanmt pay Rs. 2.oo and get the information.
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  • Shrawan Pathak's Avatar
    1 Week Ago
    A new poll has been created for the RTI nomination . Please vote for your favorite!
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  • karira's Avatar
    1 Week Ago
    From an email received from Mr Venkatesh Nayak New Supreme Court Rules for inspection and copies must become RTI-compliant Today, the Supreme Court of India has begun implementing its new set of Rules for regulating its practice and procedures. These Rules were notified in May this year. They replace the existing Rules brought into force in 1966. Readers may access the text of the new SC Rules at:http://supremecourtofindia.nic.in/Supreme%20Court%20Rules,%202013.pdf Readers will recollect that the Registry of the Supreme Court is also a public authority under the Right to Information Act, 2005. Whether the Chief Justice of India is also a public authority under the same law, is a question that has been referred to a Constitution Bench of the Court in November 2010 in the matter of Central Public Information Officer, Supreme Court of India vs. Subhash Chandra Agrawal, (2011) 1SCC 496. This Bench has not been constituted for almost four years despite important constitutional and legal questions being framed by the three-Judge Bench. Readers may recollect this is the well known 'judges' assets case' initiated by the RTI intervention of veteran RTI activist Mr. Subhash Chandra Agrawal. I have enclosed a document containing a comparison between the 1966 Rules and the new Rules of the Apex Court from the perspective of the RTI Act. While access to court records were governed by Order XII of the 1966 Rules, they have been split up under Orders X and XIII in the 2014 version. They cover the rights of parties as well as strangers to information about any judicial proceeding. The 1966 Rules required a stranger who is not a party to any ongoing judicial proceeding to give reasons (i.e., "show cause") for seeking copies of documents related to that proceeding. This requirement remains unchanged under the new Rules. Several experts including the Public Information Officer of the Apex Court and their advocates have tried to draw a distinction between seeking copies of court records under the Court's rules as well as seeking the same information under the RTI Act. The PIO of the Apex Court has frequently denied access to copies of Court records under the RTI Act stating that the 1966 Court Rules permit access to even strangers under Order XII, so there is no need to make a request under the RTI Act. However what is often lost in the interpretation is the question- why should Court Rules be forced upon an RTI applicant when the request is made under the RTI Act. Division Benches of both Rajasthan and Delhi High Courts have ruled that when a public authority under the Executive arm of the State receives RTI applications, it must deal with them in terms of the RTI Rules and not any other Rules, especially with regard to calculation of fees. These judgements will override the Delhi High Court Single judge Bench's 2012 directive that when other laws also provide for access to information then those fee Rules will apply no matter what . So the same principle must apply to Courts as well. A second contradiction with the RTI Act is that a stranger has to show cause for seeking information under the Court Rules while under the RTI Act there is no such compulsion. Of course when a person seeks information under the Court Rules, those Rules must apply, however, when a request is made under the RTI Act, then commonsense requires that the RTI Rules must apply. It is a clear recognition of this commonsensical principle which seems to have guided the Madras High Court to amend its Appellate Side Rules (but not the Original Side Rules) in 2010. Order XII, Rule 3, earlier required a stranger to a case to submit an affidavit explaining to the Court why he/she wants copies of a court record. The 2010 amendment deletes this requirement. So now a stranger to an ongoing appeal case needs to only make an application to the Madras High Court seeking copies of any document of an ongoing case. While notifying its new Rules, the Hon'ble Supreme Court could have incorporated similar provisions to make them RTI-compliant. I hope the Apex Court makes its new Rules RTI compliant just as the Madras High Court did four years ago. Readers may also note that Article 145(1) of the Constitution is the source of the Apex Court's power to make Rules with the approval of the President to regulate its procedure. This provision starts with the phrase: "Subject to the provisions of any law made by Parliament..." The RTI Act is clearly a law made by Parliament and covers the Supreme Court squarely as a 'public authority' and all court records as 'information' within its definitions. So when a request for court records in an ongoing case is made under the RTI Act, the RTI Rules must prevail because the Constitution subjects the Court Rules to the RTI Act. Time and again the PIO of the Apex Court has contested this position. A matter relating to access to records on the administrative side of the Apex Court in which I assisted the Appellant has been referred to a full bench of the CIC in May this year. The outcome of a writ petition in the Delhi High Court against the Apex Court- again about information pertaining to the administrative side which Commodore (retd.) Lokesh Batra has filed- is awaited as the judgement has been reserved last week.
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  • karira's Avatar
    1 Week Ago
    The UP Government has issued an advertisement for the post of CIC and one IC in the UPSIC. The notification and application format is attached to this post.
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  • karira's Avatar
    1 Week Ago
    Have you ever been to Chaibasa, Jharkhand ? If no, then how did you get a Driving Licence from there ?
    20 replies | 697 view(s)
  • karira's Avatar
    1 Week Ago
    Please read the following (and also visit ALL the links given in the various posts in the threads): http://www.rtiindia.org/forum/11536-applicability-procedure-regarding-sec-11-third-party.html http://www.rtiindia.org/forum/blogs/jps50/292-rights-third-party-under-rti-act.html http://www.rtiindia.org/forum/11536-applicability-procedure-regarding-sec-11-third-party-3.html http://www.rtiindia.org/forum/81575-new-file-added-delhi-hc-judgment-sec.html
    12 replies | 360 view(s)
  • karira's Avatar
    1 Week Ago
    Why do you need to file a RTI for this ? Isn't the Bank branch giving you all the details, by simply asking them ?
    5 replies | 153 view(s)
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