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    How come they are not even teaching you how to file RTI applications in that course ? Must complain to CGG about this type of teaching.
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    karira replied to a thread How to write RTI in Chit Chat
    From which government office do you want to seek information ? Follow the respective RTI Rules - Central or respective State - depending on under which government does that government office come under. Please read: Centre/State RTI Rules and Fees - Guide Fundamental Facts About RTI - Guide How to Use your Right to Information - Guide http://www.rtiindia.org/forum/blogs/karira/4403-guide-drafting-good-rti-application.html http://www.rtiindia.org/forum/content/
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    Kargil veteran who `leaked' info sacked after fake probe Acourt of inquiry (CoI) that had led to an Army Brigadier's dismissal without court martial after the 1999 Kargil war for allegedly leaking classified documents has turned out to be fictitious, according to information obtained under the Right to Information (RTI) Act. The Army's 3-Infantary Division recently told Brig Surinder Singh, in response to his RTI query days before the 15th anniversary of the Kargil War on July 26, that no such inquiry was ever held. “It has no information about any CoI, as no such inquiry was ordered by this branch during the month September 1999,“ it said. Singh had asked for the name and designation of the officers who had convened the CoI as well. In reply , the 3-Infantary Division said it did not have the information because no such CoI was convened. “The RTI information has vindicated my stand that I had not leaked any classified information,“ Singh said. “I will fight till my honour is restored.“ Singh has now amended his petition before the Armed Forces Tribunal, Chandigarh, saying he was dismissed on the basis of a fictitious inquiry while seeking to have his dismissal set aside. Read More: Kargil veteran who `leaked' info sacked after fake probe
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    Can a housing society expel its member for filing too many RTI Applications ? Recently, a housing society in Bandra, Mumbai has soughtexpulsion of one of its members. The complaint against him was that he used to harass the society by filing Right To Information (RTI) applications. The Co-operative Societies Act, which also governs housing societies, allows this. But the process is not easy. A co-operative housing society can expel members under Section 35 of the Maharashtra Co-operative Societies Act, 1960. According to the Act, a member can be expelled if he/she willfully deceives the society, provides false information to the society, acts against the society’s by-laws, does not pay the society’s dues persistently or is involved in illegal or immoral activities. The co-operative societies rules are similar for other states and include similar provisions for expelling members. However, the conditions are subjective and the society has to prove it to the Registrar of Co-operative Housing Societies. The member can challenge the order in court. Read More: Can a housing society expel its member? | Business Standard News
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    Please also read: http://www.rtiindia.org/forum/126525-rules-assets-liabilities-disclosure-notified-under-lokpal.html
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    From an email received from Venkatesh Nayak: Dear all, The media has reported today about the Rules notified by the Department of Personnel and Training (DoPT) for the filing of information and annual returns relating to assets and liabilities for all public servants covered by theLokpal and Lokayuktas Act, 2013 (1st attachment). What is good about this notification? 1) The notification of these Rules is a step forward from the statutory requirement under the Right to Information Act, 2005. Readers will remember that under Section 4(1(b)(x) of this law, every public authority is required to proactively disclose details of salary paid and the compensation package offered to every civil servant who is its employee. However there was no statutory compulsion on civil servants to publicly disclose information about their movable and immovable properties inherited or acquired. So several RTI users demanded the publication of this information under the RTI Act by filing formal requests. While some Information Commissions ordered disclosure of information contained in the immovable property returns submitted by civil servants every year, others rejected the request upholding the official's right to privacy. In at least one case, an RTI activist in southern India who sought such information about a senior level officer, had to be provided gunman security as the request snowballed into a public altercation between the two. The matter of disclosure of assets related information was settled, rather unsatisfactorily by the Hon'ble Supreme Court of India in the case of Girish Ramchandra Deshpande vs Cen. Information Commr. and Anr. (2013) 1SCC 212. In that case the Apex Court ruled that unless the RTI applicant is able to demonstrate the public interest in disclosure, every public servant is entitled to confidentiality vis-a-vis his/her assets related details. The new Rules notified by the Government of India known as Public Servants (Furnishing of Information and Annual Return of Assets and Liabilities and the Limits for Exemption of Assets in Filing Returns) Rules, 2014 (PSAR Rules) require every public servant to make a declaration attaching details of his/her assets as well as those of his/her spouse and dependent children to the competent authority within 30 days of taking an oath of making an affirmation for entering public office. Thereafter he/she must submit annual returns for every financial year by 31st July of the very next financial year. The Rules contain an Appendix setting forth the form of declaration and the manner of disclosure of both movable and immovable assets. The public servant must also disclose details of loans taken by self, spouse or dependent children. These declarations and submissions will be made to the competent authority in every public authority. These Rules render a portion of the judgement of the Apex Court in Girish Ramchandra Deshpande obsolete. Section 44(6) of the Lokpal and Lokayuktas Act requires the competent authority which receives assets and liabilities related information of public servants to make them public through websites by the end of August every year. If this information is not available on the respective websites, a citizen may seek this information formally under the RTI Act from the public authority. 2) Members of Parliament submit their assets and liabilities details to the Chairpersons of the respective Houses under the respective Rules adopted in 2004 (2nd and 3rd attachment). However access to these statements was not easy as disclosure to strangers was left to the discretion of the Chairpersons. These details were not easily available under the RTI Act either. Now this discretionary power is done away with thanks to Section 44 of the Lokpal Act. This provision contains mandatory disclosure of assets and liabilities details of all public servants including that of MPs. This is another progressive step towards developing a culture of personal integrity for holders of elected offices. What is problematic about this notification? 1) Section 44 of the Lokpal and Lokayuktas Act (Lokpal Act) covers three kinds of statutory disclosures- a) When a public servant enters his/her office upon being sworn by oath or affirmation. b) Serving public servants are required to make disclosures of their assets and liabilities within 30 days of the enforcement of this Act. c) Later on, all public servants must disclose details of their assets and liabilities as well as that of their spouse and dependent children every year. Rule 3 of the PSAR Rules states that the templates contained in Appendices I and II are to be used for filing all three kinds of returns listed above. However all the templates in Appendix II of the PSAR are titled "Return" or "Statement" to be filed on "First Appointment". While this will serve the purpose of the first statutory requirement of disclosure for new recruits, it is wrongly titled for the next two categories of officers who will make disclosures every year and upon the enforcement of this Act. This confusion in the title of the declaration and statements of movable and immovable properties must be removed immediately and appropriately titled forms must be released for each category. 2) The Lokpal Act covers all categories of public servants in Section 14. These include the Prime Minister, Union Ministers, Members of Parliament, civil servants, employees and managers of public sector undertakings, universities, boards, trusts and societies or autonomous bodies wholly or partly financed by the Central Government and any organisation which receives foreign contribution of more than Rs. 10 lakh per year (USD 1,6950 where 1USD= INR59) under the Foreign Contribution Regulation Act, 2010. The Prime Minister is the competent authority for receiving declarations of assets and liabilities of the Union Ministers as per the Code of Conduct adopted first in 1964 and revised later in 1992 (4th attachment). This Code does not require the Prime Minister to disclose his/her assets to anybody. However, Section 44 read with Section 14 of the Lokpal Act requires the Prime Minister also to publicly declare his/her assets. So the Government will have to notify who the competent authority shall be to receive the PM's first declaration and subsequent annual returns under this Act and make them accessible to the public. Perhaps it should be the President as he alone is higher in the executive hierarchy to the PM. GoI must issue a clarification on this issue. It is not clear if the templates notified by the DoPT are intended for the use of 'public servants' other than 'civil servants' The larger issue will be securing compliance in the non-governmental organisations in the social and voluntary sector which receive foreign funding above Rs. 10 lakh per year. Their directors managers, and officers will also have to make disclosures of their assets and liabilities to the competent authority in such organisations. These will have to be made public on their respective websites. However, there is no clear cut mechanism in the Lokpal Act to ensure such compliance. 3) According to the text of the gazette notification of the Rules, it was to be published in Official Gazette on 14th July, 2014. However this set of Rules is not uploaded either in the Ordinary Gazette Section or the Extraordinary Gazette Section of the E-gazette website of GoI. I tried looking for it but could not find it. If readers are able to find it on the E-Gazette website, kindly let me know and I will issue a corrigendum. 4) These Rules do not come up under the 'What's New' Segment of DoPT's website either. Instead it is tucked away in the Circular Portal of GoI which is password protected. However readers may access it through Google by keying in the complete title of the Rules. The link is: http://ccis.nic.in/WriteReadData/CircularPortal/D2/D02ser/MX-M452N_20140716_172536.pdf The Government of India ought to have advertised these Rules in a big way as it is such a novel step forward in bringing about more accountability and transparency in the functioning of the bureaucracy. Integrity systems will be strengthened through such disclosures. However the quiet manner in which this Rule has been notified is perplexing to say the least. Nevertheless, all credit must go to the State Government of Bihar for taking such a step for its public servants in 2011. Starting with the Chief Minister and down to the clerical staff, every public servant was required to publicly declare their assets and liabilities annually. However this practice seems to have died out after two years because the assets related information on this website has not been updated since 2013. Readers may check this fact for themselves at: Asset Declaration Kindly circulate this email widely. Thanks Venkatesh NayakProgramme Coordinator Access to Information Programme Commonwealth Human Rights Initiative B-117, 1st Floor, Sarvodaya Enclave New Delhi- 110 017
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    1 Day Ago
    Call up any of the officers on this list and ask: "Who is the SPIO under the RTI Act 2005 in your office ?" http://fcs.up.nic.in/upfood/fcsportal/information/contactaddress.aspx
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    You will have to check the SIC website OR call the SIC and get a copy of the order: Jharkhand State Information Commission Jharkhand State Information Commission
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    karira replied to a thread awareness in Ask for RTI Query
    There are some "official" surveys by the Government and several by NGOs. But no one can vouch for their authenticity or genuineness.
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    karira replied to a thread Heis in Ask for RTI Query
    You can file a RTI with the PIO of HEIS College and ask for the copy of rules and regulations governing the salary to be paid and increments to be given to......
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    2 Days Ago
    This information will only be available with the Bureau of Immigration (BoI) BoI is under the Intelligence Bureau (IB) - an organisation exempt from RTI under Sec 24 - except for information related to corruption and human rights issues.
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    vaidy14, Try to get this information published in the Media. Also try to get it published in Citizen Matters - Bangalore News, Views & Opinions
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    The CIC is supposed to be the second appellate authority under RTI., It is to decide whether information is disclosed or not. In this particular order, the CIC has simply passed the "buck" ! It has said that it is for the PIO to decide applicability of exemptions. What is the CIC there for ? Shouldn't it be deciding whether exemptions applied by the PIO/FAA are valid or not ? If exemptions are to be decided by PIO/FAA as the final authority, why have a CIC at all ? The PIO / FAA / CIC have also not given reasons as to how the disclosure of the information will affect relations with a foreign state. Just quoting the section ad-verbatim does not mean giving "reasons" A typical order from an ex IB chief......more interested in hiding information rather than disclosing it.
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    Just as a comparison: 1. Arvind Kejariwal's oath taking ceremony (as Delhi CM) cost Rs. 13.41 Lakhs (Rs 6.33 Lakhs on ceremony and Rs. 6.7 Lakhs on publicity). 2. CM Shiela Dixits oath taking ceremony cost Rs 13.04 Lakhs (5.53 lakhs tent expenses and Rs. 7.50 Lakhs as food expenses) Source: Kejriwal's oath-taking ceremony cost Rs 13.41 lakhs | Business Standard News http://www.rtiindia.org/forum/119796-oath-taking-expenses-6-33-lac-kejriwal.html
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    Rs 17.60 lakh were spent on Modi's oath-taking ceremony An expenditure of at least Rs 17.60 lakh was incurred on theoath-taking ceremony of Prime Minister Narendra Modi in the forecourt of Rashtrapati Bhavan, an RTI reply has found. The reply provided by the President's Secretariat said approximate cost incurred on the arrangements of the oath-taking ceremony, attended by 4017 guests, related to tentage, stage, furniture and other allied items is Rs 17.6 lakhs. In its response to activist Ramesh Verma, the Secretariat said that it does not maintain the records of expenditure function-wise. "Hence the information sought for cannot be provided. It is informed that the expenditure on functions in incurred by the spending units from the annual budget allotted to respective head of accounts," a reply from CPIO Saurabh Vijay said. Read More here: http://www.business-standard.com/article/politics/rs-17-60-lakh-were-spent-on-modi-s-oath-taking-ceremony-114072000141_1.html
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    in response to an RTI application by Mr Subhash Chandra Agrawal, CPWD has revealed that the oath taking ceremony of PM Narendra Modi cost only Rs. 17.6 Lakhs. The reply from the CPIO is attached to this post.
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    Here is a link to the Minutes: http://cic.gov.in/CIC-Minutes/Minutes03062014.pdf Agenda -2 Fixing the age of “Senior Citizen” for the purpose of hearing of cases on priority. It was decided that the matter of hearing of cases of Senior Citizens on priority would be considered by the Information Commissioner of the concerned Registry on the basis of merit on case to case basis with a speaking order. ===================================== Why are they trying to "reinvent" the wheel ? Maybe memory loss with advancement of age of the Commisisoners, Officers & Staff of the CIC (after all most of them are themselves "senior citizens") The same thing was discussed (and decided) in the meeting on 13/12/2011 - 2.5 years ago: http://cic.gov.in/CIC-Minutes/Minutes13122011.pdf Agenda 3: Norms and procedure for according priority to appellants in hearing appeals/complaint filed before the Commission The Commission resolved that “The appeals/complaint received from Senior Citizens or from differently abled persons in the respective registries will be put up to the Bench of the Commission where such cases are registered. The Information Commissioner under Section 12 (4) of the RTI Act will decide on the priority to be given to such appeals and complaints. The priority accorded will be the part of judicial decision which necessarily will involve recording reasons for giving such priority while adjudicating the case. The same procedure will be followed in cases which, according to the opinion of the Information commissioner, involve larger Public Interest.” These are "norms" set by the CIC for its own functioning - as available on the CIC website: http://cic.gov.in/CIC-Section4/Section-4-1-b-4.pdf Section 4(1)(b)-iv Norms set for discharge of functions in CIC The appeals/complaints are generally taken up for hearing on first come first serve basis. Wherever the Respondents/Appellants have number of cases, efforts will be made to club such cases so that they could be heard on a single day. Preference may also be given to Senior Citizens and Physically Challenged Persons, for an out of turn hearing on a case to case basis for reasons to be recorded in writing considering the request. ========== Nothing else but just wasting their own and everyone else's time OR doing "time pass".
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    4 Days Ago
    Besides what others have suggested, in your RTI application , boldly state somewhere "The information being sought in this RTI application pertains to......................."
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    Something seriously wrong with you, if you want to "verify" your own driving licence ! If you gave the learners test, got a learners Driving Licence, waited for the prescribed period, gave the final drivers test, stood in line to give your signature and thumb impression.....then obviously you have a official driving licence. It is obvious from your post that you did not do all that, but paid a agent, who gave you a fake driving licence. Your driving licence is fake !
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    There is no need for anyone to apply..... In a written reply (obtained under RTI), the PMO (former one) informed that even those who had not applied for a ICs post can be considered, recommended and appointed as ICs. So, if someone thinks you are "fit" to be an IC, you will be selected, even if you do not apply.
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    How come you dont even know in which Companies you are a Director ? Something very fishy with your query !
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    PM to decide who gets to use red beacons PM to decide who gets to use red beacons - Hindustan Times Road minister Nitin Gadkari has written to the Prime Minister asking him to take a final call on dignitaries who should be entitled to use red beacon on their car. Gadkari has given Modi a list of three options ranging from maintaining status quo to restricting the beacons to just five constitutional authorities which includes the President, vice-president, Prime Minister, Chief Justice of Supreme Court and Speaker of Lok Sabha. “Since it is a sensitive issue we have referred it to the PM asking for his guidance,” said a source. The existing rules allow the privilege of having red beacon on cars not only to the 32 cabinet ministers but nearly a dozen others who have been accorded the rank and status of a cabinet minister. The issue of VIPs flashing red beacon on their vehicles invited the ire of Supreme Court, which last December, directed the government to drastically restrict the number of VIPs using red beacons to just high dignitaries and those holding constitutional post. But despite the SC direction, the ministry had failed to arrive at a unanimous decision on the list of VIPs who should be allowed the privilege of using red beacons. Two other options that the ministry has suggested to the PM on the matter is to either marginally prune the existing list of VIPs or ban red beacons all together. In February, senior lawyer Harish Salve who is amicus curiae in the case had demanded a complete ban on use of red beacons except for security reasons.
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    5 Days Ago
    Please also read: http://www.rtiindia.org/forum/126076-six-more-than-eight.html
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    DoPT has issued a Notice for appointment of more ICs in the CIC, dated 16 Jul 2014, The notice is attached. ===================== Posters Note: This notice was issued on the same date as a matter regarding "Contempt of Court" proceedings against DoPT was to be heard in Delhi HC on the same issue of "appointment of ICs".
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    5 Days Ago
    That is already available in the public domain. Just ask some CHA with a user name & password and he will get it for you.
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    In AP, activists had to push for "transparency" in the CMs relief Fund for 3 years. In fact once they claimed that they are not under RTI because the CMs relief fund does not get any funds from the "appropriate" government. Finally they uploaded on the website. After the then CM passed away in a helicopter crash, the information was removed from the website. UP is much worse. Someone filed a RTI to get details of the beneficiaries of the fund. Matter went up to the HC. The UP Government claimed in the Allahabad HC that the CMs relief fund is in fact to be used at the CMs discretion and its operations are a state secret ! Luckily the Allahabad HC ordered disclosure. There are a lot of skeletons in those funds ! By the way, I hope you noticed that a person nominated by the Congress Party is still a member of the Committee ! Wonder what the new Non Congress Government will do about it.
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    Origin of the PMs Relief Fund and the National Defence Fund (NDF) Attached is the information obtained under RTI of the origin of the PMs Relief Fund and the National Defence Fund. The information was obtained by Mr Subhash Chandra Agarwal
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    6 Days Ago
    Is the "deemed" PIO the custodian of the information sought ? If yes, then follow the suggestion by member ambrish.p in post No. 3 above. If No, then the deemed PIO should simply write back to the PIO who sought his assistance stating that he is not the custodian of the requested information and the PIO can contact the officer who is the custodian. Everything (past, present & future) should be in writing !
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    Please read: Time limits specified in the RTI Act - Guide Also read the other articles in the Guide segment. They will be useful to you ! Guide
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    What is the exact of "information" you want to seek about importer/exporter ?
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    No, DoPT has control only over public authorities under the Central Government. If you have very strong legal grounds, then better to approach the HC directly. - - - Updated - - - No, DoPT has control only over public authorities under the Central Government. If you have very strong legal grounds, then better to approach the HC directly.
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    6 Days Ago
    Better to get the issues resolved and settled now....rather than wait for the bill and the commissions. We all know what is happening with Information Commissions, even 9 years after the passing of the Act.
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    Better to address the issues immediately rather than wait for bill to be passed and wait for "commissions". We all know what is happening with Information Commissions - even 8 years after their appointment !
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    That is correct....because the info was obviously provided beyond the 30 day time limit.
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    There is nothing in the RTI Act about a "signed application" being mandatory. However, better to be cautious and always sign your RTI application. A first appeal and second appeal are entirely different. They are part of the appellate process and therefore have to be signed.
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    also Bye Bye the Peepal Tree under which they sit ! Phew.....finally....... Notary & Stamp vendor can both go and fly kites ! Self-attested papers will do for govt work Self-attested papers will do for govt work Citizens will no longer be required to get documents attested by a gazetted officer or file affidavits for government-related work, with the Centre deciding to settle for self-attested documents such as birth certificate and marksheets. The Centre has also written to the state governments to do away with the requirement of attaching affidavits issued by notary or documents attested by gazetted officers with applications made to government departments. This will save the common man the trouble of finding a gazetted officer or from spending money to get affidavits from a notary. Applicants to the government now only need to attach selfcertified copies of their marksheet, birth certificate, etc. Self-attestation norms, however, will require them to produce the original documents at the final stage. ============ For those staying in Karnataka and using Karnataka State Government services:Running around for affidavits to end, self declaration to take off soon: Nikita Malusare - Citizen Matters, Bangalore News
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    Small correction. The new RTI Rules dated 31 July 2012 (available in Guide section) do provide for postal charges, if the amount exceeds rs. 50. Please see Rule 4(g): 4. Fees for providing information.—Fee for providing information under sub-section (4) of Section 4 and sub-sections (1) and (5),of Section 7 of the Act shall be charged at the following rates, namely :– . . . (g) so much of postal charge involved in supply of information that exceeds fifty rupees.
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    The LS MPs have just been elected. Would they have even used the funds ? RS MPs have been there for a longer time. First check with the DPO (Dist Planning Officer) who sits in the Collectors Office. He keeps all the info regarding MP and MLALAD funds for that district. Maybe, after meeting him, there might be no need to file the RTI.
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    Dont even bother to wait for the results. Notaries, Non Judicial Stamp Paper Vendors and some Gazetted Officers will soon be without much work ! Please read: Self-attested papers will do for govt work
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    To: Mr Vijai Sharma Information Commissioner Central Information Commission cc: Mr Rajiv Mathur Chief Information Commissioner Central Information Commission cc: Mr Vijay Sharma Dpty Registrar to IC VS Central Information Commission (With a request to take a print out and put up before the IC Mr Vijai Sharma) From: C J Karira Secunderabad cjkarira@gmail.com Date: 16 July 2014 Dear Sir, Sub: Another incorrect Order by your "Manager Legal" - without your knowledge Sir, I wish you to recall our brief meeting in New Delhi on 08 July 2014, just after the "Full Bench" hearing in Room No. 314, A K Bhawan. At that time I had brought to your attention that your Manager Legal is passing absurd, unreasoned and illogical orders, behind your back and without any authority to do so. I also gave you the exact reference and explained to you in detail, as to what has happened in that particular case. However, it seems that your "Manager Legal" is continuing with the same practice. Kindly refer to: Decision No.CIC/AD/C/2013/000018/VS/07123 Appeal No.CIC/AD/C/2013/000018/VS Dated: 13.06.2014 Shri Anil Kumar Khater v/s CPIO, Railway Board http://www.rti.india.gov.in/cic_decisions/CIC_AD_C_2013_000018_VS_07123_M_133647.pdf 1. The order is "non speaking" and "unreasoned". 2. The only reason given is "This matter will be covered under section 7(9) of the RTI Act" 3. What does the the Manager Legal mean by that ? Is information to be disclosed or NOT disclosed ? Even God will never know. 5. Sec 7(9) cannot be used by anyone to deny information. It can only be used to offer the information in another "form". There are hundreds of CIC decisions to this effect - including a full bench decision. Off hand, I can recall at least 6 High Court judgments to the same effect. 6. The information sought by the applicant is certainly in larger public interest because the Railways and its Ministers are known to announce projects and then allot bare minimum amount of funds to those projects. 7. In fact, this information should have actually been suo-motu disclosed under Sec 4(1)(b)(xi) ============ In view of the above, I sincerely request you to send your "Manager Legal" for some serious RTI Training ! Such persons, who do not even have a basic knowledge of the RTI Act and nor are aware of past decisions/judgments related to RTI, have no place in the office of any Information Commissioner - specially if they are occupying the post of "Manager Legal". I request you that in the specific interest of RTI and in the larger interest of upholding the Commissions' reputation, kindly take immediate and suitable action on your "Manager Legal" so that she is prevented from passing such orders without your knowledge. I also request you to kindly inform me about the action you take regarding the above specific order as well as against the "Manager Legal" Thanking You, C J Karira
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    The Times Group Govt Wants Quick Grievance Redressal Jul 15 2014 : The Economic Times (Bangalore) Govt Wants Quick Grievance Redressal AMAN SHARMA NEW DELHI   Includes complaint redressal as part of ministry's annual targets The government has told different ministries and departments under the central government to submit a status report on three oldest citizen complaints pending in their departments along with specific explanation for the delay in their redressals. According to a report prepared by the ministry of personnel, 44,293 citizen grievances are pending with 107 government ministries and department for more than two months, and 24,097 of them were lodged more than a year ago. A ministry officials said the government is keen to change this situation. The previous UPA government had launched the grievance redressal mechanism for -citizens and government employees, touting it as one of its most important initiatives along with the Citizen Charters Bill to fix timelines for delivery of services. It had fixed a two-month deadline for disposal of citizen grievances. The new government has now decided that the oldest pending grievances should be attended to first and has included the same in the Result Framework Documents (RFDs), or annual targets, for each ministry in 2014-15. In a circular issued to all ministries on July 10 the ministry of personnel said redress of the three oldest pending grievances in all ministries and departments is an RFD requirement for 2014-15. The ministry will also hold review meetings with all ministries and departments, starting with a review meeting with 10 departments on June 16. “The status in the three oldest pending grievances may also be brought along with reasons for delay in their redress,” the ministry circular said. The ministry of coal, department of commerce, department of fertilisers, Unique Identification Authority of India (UIDAI), department of economic affairs and ministry of agriculture are among the ten ministries where pendency will be reviewed first. The department of higher education has the highest number of grievances pending for more than a year at 3,041, followed by the department of defence (2,663), Central Bureau of Direct Taxes (1,630), ministry of environment (1,129) and the ministry of road transport (901 complaints). A study done by the department of administrative reforms earlier showed that a majority of grievances are related to inordinate delay in taking decisions and refusal, or inability, to make verbal replies.
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    To which State Govt. (or central Govt. ?) does the public authority belong ? Some states have RTI rules which provide for payment of postal charges and higher fees for "attested" pages. The PIO should have provided you the break up of the additional fees demanded of Rs 50.00 (Read Sec 7(3)(a) and (b))
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    Thanks for your prompt response. I have written letters and sent mails but no response. Can you tell me which site should I visit to file an ONLINE application for IT Refund. I remember having filed one such application in the month of February 2014 in respect of my son's case. This was done ONLINE and the fee of Rs.10 was paid through my Credit Card. I got the reply also from CBDT New Delhi and CPC Bangalore. Unfortunately, I am not able to locate that site now. Kindly help. Thanks again. RS Ahuja Poster is asking for website to file for "online IT refund" NOT "online RTI application"
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    Very difficult to get review in the CIC, specially when the IC involved is most likely to be future CIC. In all probability, this order is not by the IC but by his “Manager Legal". I have had personal experience with her and she has zero knowledge of the RTI Act coupled with a negative attitude to RTI in general. Sent from RTI INDIA Mobile App
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    There wont be clarity....in fact there will be confusion .... because both the decisions are contrary to each other !
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    Yes, you are correct. Here is the link to that thread: http://www.rtiindia.org/forum/125463-copy-leave-application-personal-information.html
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    Poster is asking about benefits to retired persons of "Assam Rifles". Assam Rifles is not part of the Ministry of Defence but the Home Ministry. It is a para-military organisation. Hence, Army or Ministry of Defence or Sainik Welfare Board will not be of any help. ======================= SmritiPuppala Please read: Official Site of Assam Rifles Welfare and Rehabilitaion Board
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    The same person who filed (and signed) the initial RTI application has to file the "first appeal" and "second appeal". There are decisions of the CIC to this effect - in the past. The confusion arises because of the wordings of the initial part of Sec 19(1) (highlighted in green colour) but this confusion is amply clarified by the wordings in the later part of Sec 19(1) (highlighted in blue colour): Section 19: Appeal (1) Any person who, does not receive a decision within the time specified in sub- section (1) or clause (a) of sub-section (3) of section 7, or is aggrieved by a decision of the Central Public Information Officer or State Public Information Officer, as the case may be, may within thirty days from the expiry of such period or from the receipt of such a decision prefer an appeal to such officer who is senior in rank to the Central Public Information Officer or State Public Information Officer as the case may be, in each public authority: Explanation: 1. First part says "any person" can file first appeal who is aggrieved by the decision of the CPIO. So technically, any person aggrieved by the decision of the CPIO can file first appeal (In this case, lets assume the advocate is "any person" and aggrieved) 2. Second part talks about 30 days of expiry or from receipt of the decision Now, how will "any person" know when the 30 days have expired OR when the decision was received ? Hence, my interpretation / conclusion that only the applicant can file first and second appeal. The applicant could have filed first appeal and then asked the advocate to represent him in the FAA hearing.
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    http://www.rti.india.gov.in/cic_decisions/CIC_AD_C_2013_000018_VS_07123_M_133647.pdf CENTRAL INFORMATION COMMISSION CLUB BUILDING (NEAR POST OFFICE) OLD JNU CAMPUS, NEW DELHI*110 067 TEL: 011*26179548 Decision No.CIC/AD/C/2013/000018/VS/07123 Appeal No.CIC/AD/C/2013/000018/VS Dated: 13.06.2014 Appellant: Shri Anil Kumar Khater, R/o 83, R.K. Street, Flt No.007, Anand Bhawan, P.O. Uttarpara*712258, Distt. Hooghly. Respondent: Central Public Information Officer*III, Railway Board, M/o Railway, Room No.471, 4th Flr, Rail Bhawan, New Delhi*110 001. Date of Hearing: 12.06.2014 ORDER RTI application: 1. The appellant filed an RTI application on 04.06.2010 seeking information pertaining to rail projects of certain States. The appellant filed a second appeal on 12.10.2011 with the Commission. Hearing: 2. The appellant and the respondent both did not participate in the hearing. 3. From the material available on record, it is evident that the appellant has sought information in his RTI application of 04.06.2010 on the following: (i) since last 15 years how many rail projects were sanctioned with details, e.g., gauge conversion, new rail projects and how many new trains started after terminal capacity fully utilized from the State of Bihar and West Bengal which were economically not viable and rejected earlier; (ii) under which policy these rail projects were considered; (iii) whether the Ministry has the same procedure for the State of Rajasthan; (iv) how many rail projects of Rajasthan are pending with regard to the criteria mentioned above; (v) whether the Ministry has any ground to prejudge feasibilkity of the proposed rail routes without survey; (vi) how many rail projects of Rajasthan are lagging behind the schedule; (vii) whether any new trains will be announced after feasibility of the said rail route; (viii) what is the plan to complete the socially desirable projects; and (ix) what is the future plan for churu and nagaur dist. Of Rajasthan. 4. This matter will be covered under section 7(9) of the RTI Act. In this light, no further action is required. Decision: 5. No further action is required in the matter. The appeal is disposed of. Copy of decision be given free of cost to the parties. (Vijai Sharma) Information Commissioner Authenticated true copy (V.K. Sharma) Designated Officer =================================== Posters comments: 1. The order is totally unreasoned and will not stand scrutiny of any court. 2. The only reason given is "This matter will be covered under section 7(9) of the RTI Act" 3. What does the IC mean by that ? 4. Is information to be disclosed or NOT disclosed ? Even God will never know. 5. Sec 7(9) cannot be used by anyone to deny information. It can only be used to offer the information in another "form" 6. The information sought by the applicant is certainly in larger public interest because the Railways and Ministers are known to announce projects and then allot bare minimum amount of funds to those projects. 7. This information should have been actually been suo-motu disclosed under Sec 4(1)(b)(xi)
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    The CIC has ruled that the leave record of a public servant is disclosable under RTI. Full order is attached to this post.
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    For the latest list of Ministries/departments to whom you can file a online RTI, visit that portal (rtionline). I cannot open it on my machine since its gives a security error. Applicants have had all kinds of experiences on that online portal - borh good and bad. I suggest use traditional methods of filing RTIs: How to submit a RTI Application - Guide Please also read the other articles in the "Guide" section of the portal....they will be helpful to you during the RTI process: Guide
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