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    I think in UP also, like gujarat/maharashtra, coop housing societies are controlled by Sub-registrar of Coop Societies. If this is so U can simultaneously ask for required info from the concerned sub-registrar under sectio 2[f] of RTI act.In case if coop housing societies in up are not controlled by sub-registrar, U can file RTI application with any other dept/authority that controls such societies.


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    Quote Originally Posted by karira View Post
    shan,

    Attaching the circular. It is in Hindi.
    as per this circular , the secretary is liable to act as a PIO. Now , the PIO of UP awas vikas has forwarded the appln to the secretary for sending the inf. to the applicant. A copy of which is marked to the applicant.What would be the relevance of this circular if the secretary does not reply within the stipulated time period & if we go for the first appeal.

    shan

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    Came across this strange news item from Deccan Herald, Bangalore.
    The Headline says something but the main body does not clairfy the headline at all.
    Can some member from Karnataka please clarify ?

    As reported by DH News Service in www.deccanherald.com on 25 June 2008:
    Deccan Herald - Co-operatives come under RTI Act: HC

    Co-operatives come under RTI Act: HC

    The High Court on Tuesday observed that “The state still relies on the English language even 40 years after the reorganisation of the state and after 35 years of implementation of the Official Language Act.”

    The Court made this observation while hearing a petition by Kannika Parameshwari Co-operative Society, Hassan.

    The Society had appealed against the State Government’s decision to bring them under Right To Information Act.

    Supporting evidence

    In support of their claim, the petitioners had cited a reported statement by the National Federation of Co-Operative Societies that they do not come under Right To Information Act.

    During the hearing, the court found that the department had stated that the Karnataka Co-operative Society Act, 1959 and Karnataka Sahakari Act were covered under Right To Information Act Justice N Kumar who looked into the matter came down heavily. against the authorities.

    He said “It is irresponsible by the officials. Obviously there is no application of mind, while issuing the notification”.

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    It seems to me that the irresponsibilty of the officials by way of interpretation of petitioners or the Federations reported statement was being questioned . Based on this assumption, the headlines make sense.

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    Can someone guide us here , Who to address the first appeal to. We filed the first appln. with the administrator of the society , who forwarded it to the secretary. As far as I recall the administrator himself is the first AA. Should we file first appeal with him or at the state/central level.

    Shan

    In ref. to the above . this is in Ghaziabad , UP
    Last edited by ganpat1956; 06-09-08 at 07:27 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shan View Post
    as per this circular , the secretary is liable to act as a PIO. Now , the PIO of UP awas vikas has forwarded the appln to the secretary for sending the inf. to the applicant. A copy of which is marked to the applicant.What would be the relevance of this circular if the secretary does not reply within the stipulated time period & if we go for the first appeal.

    shan
    You addressed the RTI application to the UP Awas Vikas....
    The PIO forwarded it to the Secretary of your Coop. Hsg. Society under Sec 6(3), since the Secretary is the custodian of the information that you sought.
    He also "intimated" you about the transfer of application.
    This procedure is correct.
    If there is no reply within 35 days (add a few more days for postal delays), then file a First Appeal with the FAA above the secretary - who is the Administrator as mentioned in your other post.


    Quote Originally Posted by shan View Post
    Can someone guide us here , Who to address the first appeal to. We filed the first appln. with the administrator of the society , who forwarded it to the secretary. As far as I recall the administrator himself is the first AA. Should we file first appeal with him or at the state/central level.

    Shan
    As per your previous post, the RTI application was transferred to the Secretary of your Coop Society. If that is correct, then how did the administrator come into the picture ?

    If you are talking about another RTI application filed separately with the Administrator, then if he is the AA, he must have sent it to the Secretary, who is the PIO of your Coop. Society. If there is no reply within 30 days (add a few days more for postal delays), then file a First Appeal to the AA - who is the Administrator in this case.

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    Ok..I have an update here.

    Now the copy that was forwarded by the administrator to the secretary of the society has evoked a response. We had asked for 3 questions;
    1) The list of members.
    2) the office bearers
    3) The authorised signatories.

    Now the response has been wrt
    1) Provided
    2) Understood that the office members are not functiong as the matter is sub-judice. And so Vibhagiya adhikari is appointed as the administrator.
    3) A certain Mr. X was the secretary of the society & since he has tendered the resignation , Prabhavia sachiv is the secretary.

    Can anyone here now help us. It seems so confusing. Who should we consider as the PIO & who is the FAA. Maybe the UP brigade can take us from here forward.

    shan

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    Have filed a first appeal to sehkari Adhikari ( Awas ) as he is the AA. Though , I have my doubt , whether he would respond. Now the second appeal has to be filed with UPSIC. What has been the experience , if any of other members here ?

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