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    Delhi police want money to give information on missing kids to an RTI activist


    As reported by Shashank Shekhar on mynews.in on 03 April 2008:
    Delhi police want money to give information on missing kids to an RTI activist*INDIA*NEWS MyNews.in:

    Delhi police want money to give information on missing kids to an RTI activist

    New Delhi: The Delhi Police have demanded Rs 25,000 from an RTI applicant to furnish information about the number of missing children in two districts.

    The then Deputy Commissioner of Police (West), Robin Hibu, and Shalini Singh, DCP, (South West) asked RTI applicant Najma Khan to provide Rs 25,000 as operational costs to be incurred in collecting the information.

    Najma, who works for the NGO, Nav Srishti, filed an RTI application with the Delhi police seeking details of missing and kidnapped children under the age 18, those recovered and the convictions in such cases in each police district between September 1, 2004 and August 31, 2007. While ten districts provided the information forthwith, the two DCPs demanded Rs 25,000 towards manpower expenditure in getting the data collected.

    Expenses

    The break up for the demand was as follows: Rs 773 for one manpower day of a sub inspector, Rs 451 for engaging a head constable for a day and Rs 425 per day each for 13 constables for two days totalling Rs 12,274 for each district.

    Both the districts Public Information Officers, on behalf of Hibu and Singh, mentioned in their letter that the information asked in the RTI is lengthy and time consuming to compile and a considerable strength of manpower from all ranks in the police station will be utilized to collect the same.

    DCP Singh justified the demand saying, "Section 7(3) of the RTI Act provides for expenses on the collection of any data for which utilisation of manpower is required for research purposes."

    Public Info

    Confused over the reason given for the demand, Reena Banerjee of Nav Srishti said they had not asked for classified data, instead it was public information that they were seeking. "It is wrong that the police are asking for money to furnish data about missing children which should be made public and be easily available.

    When other districts can cooperate why only two districts demanded money for the same work? What are the reasons behind the demand? If such huge sums of money were to be demanded, nobody would be able to exercise the right to seek information," Reena said.

    Unethical


    Santosh Jha, an RTI activist, said asking money for utilisation of manpower is unethical and a clear violation of the RTI law. He said, "Under section 4 of the RTI Act, every information should be made public by the department concerned. It is the duty of the police to maintain such data and make in public whenever asked for.

    According to RTI law no one can ask for money for manpower utilisation, one can only charge for expenses on stationary and other office work. If somebody demands money then an applicant can move to Central Information Commission."

    Information about missing children is not at all classified and must be part of police records, maintenance of which requires no research, Jha said.

    "The police is misleading the public and trying to discourage RTI applicants," he added.

    He elaborated saying he sought information regarding missing children in the wake of Nithari killings.


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    Re: Delhi police want money to give information on missing kids to an RTI activist


    This is the 3rd time Delhi Police is asking for additional charges for giving information which is available FREE of COST on the internet and published by their own department !

    https://www.rtiindia.org/forum/2000-w...html#post12023

    Please visit:

    Zonal Integrated Police Network (zipnet.nic.in)

    for a list of all the 35,420 missing persons upto the last FIR filed on 3rd April 2008 (for person missing on 26th March 2008). The list can also be sorted/filtered.
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    Great Karira...
    Maan Gaye

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    Re: Delhi police want money to give information on missing kids to an RTI activist



    As reported by Shashank Shekhar in mid-day.com on 23 August 2010:
    Delhi police comes clean on city's missing children

    Delhi police comes clean on city's missing children


    CIC ordered data to be placed in public domain in response to an NGO's plea after cops allegedly asked for money as operational costs to divulge details

    Finally, the Delhi police has made the data of the Capital's missing children available to an NGO which was trying

    Parents of missing children during a demonstration against Delhi police at the police headquarters. file pic
    to fetch the statistics with the help of an RTI plea for the last two years.

    With a spurt in the numbers of children who have disappeared in the past few years, a Delhi-based NGO Nav Shristi filed an RTI application with all the 12 districts of Delhi police two years ago, seeking the exact statistics.

    However, the then Deputy Commissioner of Police (west), Robin Hibu, and Shalini Singh, DCP (southwest) had allegedly asked RTI applicant Najma Khan to provide Rs 25,000 as operational costs to be incurred in collecting the information.

    In its recent order, the Central Information Commission (CIC) has directed the Delhi police to put all related data on their website within two months. In its order CIC said: "In the present case the information sought by applicants/complainant Najma Khan is on the matter of pressing public concern. So the information should be made available free of cost and should be displayed at the website so that it becomes public."

    A comprehensive affidavit recently submitted by the police in the Delhi High Court has disclosed that 2009 witnessed the highest number of children - 5,946 - going missing in the last four years. While most of the children were recovered through the efforts of the police and other means, as many as 920 are yet to be traced.

    Following the court's directive, Delhi police counsel Pawan Sharma had tendered the affidavit before a Division Bench detailing the number of children who went missing since 2006, those who were later recovered and the reasons behind their disappearance.

    According to the affidavit, the reasons why they went missing is "social" in nature and "were not of the kind preventable by the police".

    Reena Banerjee of Nav Srishti said they had not asked for classified data; instead it was public information that they were seeking. "When other districts can cooperate why did two districts demand money for the same work? So we went to the CIC seeking justice and finally after two years we have won the battle and the police will furnish the details."

    KID YOU NOT

    Najma, who works for the NGO, Nav Srishti, filed an RTI application with the Delhi police seeking details of missing and kidnapped children under the age 18, those recovered and the convictions in such cases in each police district between September 1, 2004 and August 31, 2007. While ten districts provided the information forthwith, the two DCPs demanded Rs 25,000 towards manpower expenditure in getting the data collected.
    The break up for the demand was as follows: Rs 773 for one manpower day of a sub inspector, Rs 451 for engaging a head constable for a day and Rs 425 per day each for 13 constables for two days totalling Rs 12,274 for each district.
    Both the districts Public Information Officers, on behalf of Hibu and Singh, mentioned in their letter that the information asked in the RTI is lengthy and time consuming to compile and a considerable strength of manpower from all ranks in the police station will be utilised to collect the same.
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