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    Re: RTI Act being misused, CIC directs probe


    Quote Originally Posted by thiagaraju View Post
    I have a case of misuse. A dismissed employee is again and again approaching through RTI seeking information on all disciplinary cases right from the inception of the company and tries to equate his case with others to gain reentry . It is a well settled law that each disciplinary case is unique and no comparison be made , Despite this he puts at least 50 questions each time in different forms. Reply was given to him that questions have already been answered. Does RTI act need be amended to curb such practices.
    The answer is firm "no".

    There is no harm supplying the information.

    If the dismissal is legally correct the authorities need not worry about the reentry of the employee.

    Suppose the employee receives all the information he demanded what at the most will he do? He will start a fresh litigation? Is the starting a litigation so simple considering the costs involved? If the dismissal is correct the employee will be defeated. What is the problem?


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    thiagaraju,

    This may be administrative irritant, but it is certainly not misuse of RTI. Why not give him all the information he is asking? Ultimately he will have to prove his point on some other forum, where RTI is not useful.

    If he gets all this information, and uses it to his advantage in front of a labour court, it should be considered very proper use of RTI. You do not like it because you are on the other side of this dispute

    Do not extend your dislike of this person to RTI Act

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    Re: RTI Act being misused, CIC directs probe


    Quote Originally Posted by chanda_s View Post
    interesting episode (i was in a mood for gossip today).

    frankly, i'm not very well conversant with the ethics of this website but normally on such responsible websites, one doesn't discuss another's misdeeds quoting names in such graphic detail. the logic is simply that the other person doesn't have a chance to defend himself while his name gets maligned, rightly or wrongly.

    why blame the "caliber of young journalist"? it appears he is not the only one quoting his personal experience.
    Please note that this thread started with news report, which mentions these PIO/ FAAs with name, and portrays them to be 'victims of RTI'. And, the whole RTI activists community was the 'accused' of misusing RTI. Therefore, an activist in the area, had to take up the defense, which included a better rounded picture of these 'RTI affected' officers.

    Also please note that most of the discussion in this thread has gone from specific case to a more general concept of misuse of RTI, and its potential damage to the mechanisms put in place presently by RTI. Those contributors who do not have the domain knowledge (Of Mulshi/ haveli Talukas in Pune District, or of these officers) have not written about specifics of the case.

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    Re: RTI Act being misused, CIC directs probe



    my submission is that RTI Act is actually misused by the CIC/PIO/AA. it is clearly mentioned in the act that if a PIO is unable to provide the complete & true information to the appellant within prescribed period of 30 days, then under which authority the CIC does not take action under Section 20 of the act and give only direction to the PIO to provide the incomplete information. Is it not misusing the Act and favouritsm of CIC for the PIOs. I ahve also to know what is the meaning of wrong information in terms of RTI Act?

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    The CIC/PIO/AA are not using RTI for any wrong purpose. True that many of them are not abiding by the provisions of the Act and not implementing the Act in its letter and spirit, but that cannot be termed as misuse. I reiterate the statement of Col Sir: "the cry of misuse of RTI Act whoever makes it is a farce."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atul Patankar View Post
    thiagaraju,

    This may be administrative irritant, but it is certainly not misuse of RTI. Why not give him all the information he is asking? Ultimately he will have to prove his point on some other forum, where RTI is not useful.

    If he gets all this information, and uses it to his advantage in front of a labour court, it should be considered very proper use of RTI. You do not like it because you are on the other side of this dispute

    Do not extend your dislike of this person to RTI Act
    This is a very practical dilemma faced by many PIOs. The PIOs are not whole time PIOs. They do the job in addition to their normal duties. They dont even have separate staff to assist them. Only those staff who are already doing something else assist the PIOs as additional responsibility without any additional remuneration. If you view the problem in this backdrop you can understand the agony and dilemma of the PIOs. However convinced about the RTI, the PIOs may be, they still get exasperated by such infructuous requests for information. You can neither blame the seekers of information nor the PIOs for this. You cant also blame the RTI Act and call for banning such requests or amending the Act. These are prices to be paid for the freedom that we want in a democracy. It should be endure. The malady cannot be erradicated.

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    no under staff problem . if PIO and his staff has enough time for tea breaks /lunch and gossip breaks . if he can afford to come late and go back early . i think he can spent few minutes for RTI also without any difficulty
    LAGE RAHO RTI KE SAATH

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    Re: RTI Act being misused, CIC directs probe


    Quote Originally Posted by Atul Patankar View Post
    Therefore, an activist in the area, had to take up the defense, which included a better rounded picture of these 'RTI affected' officers.

    Those contributors who do not have the domain knowledge (Of Mulshi/ haveli Talukas in Pune District, or of these officers) have not written about specifics of the case.
    i would be really disappointed if this is the established and accepted norm in the website as is being projected in the quoted post.

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