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  1. Top score but IIM will not take her in


    Bangalore, February 23, 2007

    The wait is certainly agonizing for Vaishanavi Kasturi, a visually impaired student, as she knocks on the doors of the Indian Institute of Management-Bangalore to know why she could not make it despite her excellent performance in CAT 2006.

    On Friday, Vaishanavi’s father RK Kasturi spent several hours closeted with a team of officials from IIM-B, asking them why his daughter was not called for a group discussion and personal interview. Vaishanavi cleared the CAT with a percentile of 89.29, outdoing thousands of other candidates. She was certainly eligible to sit for the next round of tests — the group discussion and interview — what with the IIM-B setting a cut-off of 86.42 percentile for the disabled. But the call never came.

    Disappointed, Vaishanavi’s family filed a notice under the Right to Information Act, which got Kasturi the meeting with the school authorities.

    At the end of the discussion, Kasturi still did not have an answer for his daughter. He told the Hindustan Times: “They told us that she did not make it because others (in the category of applicants with physical disabilities) were graduates or had work experience, etc. We had a long meeting and discussed many things because we want to understand where we stand. Let us wait till Monday (February 26). We have to attend a hearing at the RTI Commissioner’s office that day. The group discussions and interviews are scheduled for April. Let us see what happens on Monday.”

    For Vaishnavi — a sixth semester BCom student of a local college — the doors to IIM-B may not have opened for her but another prestigious institute, the MS Ramaiah Institute of Management, has offered her a free seat for a post-graduate diploma in management.

    Vaishanavi, however, still hopes she will qualify for the Indian Institute of Management-Bangalore at the end of the hearing at the RTI Commissioner’s office in the state capital on Monday.

    IIM says no to top scorer : HindustanTimes.com



  2. IIM-B comes clean on Vaishnavi's RTI


    Bangalore: The Indian Institute of Management-Bangalore, at the RTI hearing of MBA aspirant Vaishnavi Kasturi, on Monday said that it has informally given all information to Vaishnavi's parents and won't give it in writing as it is not under public domain.

    Visually impaired Vaishnavi failed to get through IIM-B despite having scored well in the Common Admission Test. Shocked at her exclusion, she demanded a list of credentials of the blind candidates short-listed by the Institute.

    But when they denied declaring the cut-off marks and said such information is confidential, Vaishnavi's family slapped a RTI notice on the institute.

    Meanwhile, the reason that the premier institute gave for not advancing her to the next admission stage was that they consider other criteria like graduation and class 12 and class 10 marks for admissions as well, and Vaishnavi was found to be lacking there.

    Vaishnavi's parents however say they will continue to fight for making the selection process in IIMs transparent.

    The next RTI hearing is on April 23, which will ascertain the jurisdiction - state or central information commission that the case would come under.
    IIM-B comes clean on Vaishnavi's RTI : IIM bangalore, RTI, Vaishnavi Kasturi, CAT : IBNLive.com : CNN-IBN

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    Re: Top score but IIM will not take her in


    Just an update on this.
    Hearing with CIC took place on 28 May 2007.

    The CIC has been requested by IIMB to hear a specialist from the admissions committee on 18th June and has postponed the decision till then. The CIC has asked IIMB to pay economy class return fare by air to Vaishnavi and Rs. 500/- per day as DA since she has to come once again to Delhi.

    Full decision can be viewed at:

    https://cic.gov.in/CIC-Orders/Decision_28052007_39.pdf

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    Another update.

    Disclose eligibility before CAT exams, CIC tells IIM-B

    TIMES NEWS NETWORK

    Bangalore: In what may change the face of one of the toughest entrance tests in the country — Common Admission Test (CAT) for admissions to the prestigious IIMs — the Central Information Commission (CIC) on Wednesday directed the IIMs to explore the possibilities of revealing the eligibility criteria before the applicants write the test.

    <!----><!---->The CIC was hearing the case of Vaishnavi Kasturi, a visually handicapped B.Com student who appeared for CAT 2007 and filed an application under the RTI Act, seeking names and percentile marks of candidates shortlisted under the Persons With Disability category for admission at IIM-B. The case is being heard in New Delhi.

    <!----><!---->At the hearing, IIM-B disclosed to the CIC that Vaishnavi, whose CAT rank was 47 was given a weightage of 20 for CAT, 15 for her class X performance, 10 for class XII performance, 15 for degree courses and 10 for her work experience.

    <!----><!---->When the CIC asked IIMB, represented by A R Ramesh and Indu Sekhar, how they had arrived at the scores , the institute said it was the eligibility criteria. To this CIC asked them to exactly define the criteria and be more transparent in their selection procedures.

    The CIC set July 28 as the next hearing date where IIM-B should provide answers to the six questions posed by Vaishnavi on the selection procedures followed during selection of candidates for IIM’s class of 2007.
    <!----><!---->IIM-B officials said the CIC’s suggestion to disclose the criteria will be taken up when the directors of IIMs meet later this month.

    VAISHNAVI TO IIM-B UNDER THE RTI ACT

    Provide me with the following information:

    The cut-off percentile as mentioned in website for People With Disability (PWD) is 86.42. Please let me know why I have not been selected for the group discussion and personal interview even though my percentile is higher in this category ?
    What other evaluation criteria have been applied for short-listing in PWD category?
    If there is any other evaluation criteria, in addition to CAT scores, that has been applied please provide details of comparative evaluation with reference to my case and candidates who have been short-listed.
    Please provide names and percentile marks obtained by candidates who have been shortlisted in PWD category?
    In the CAT bulletin, it is stated that one percent of the seats is separately reserved for blind, out of 3 per cent of total reservation for PWD. Please provide names and percentile marks obtained by selected blind candidates for GD and PI and point out where I stand in this relative ranking.
    In last 10 years from IIM-Bangalore how many blind students have graduated?
    What are the appeal procedures in such cases and who is the person responsible to receive applications for reconsideration?

    The Times of India ePaper

  5. Re: Top score but IIM will not take her in


    The decision of the CIC has come at last. On going through the original RTI application, the Commission found that several of the issues on which the information had been asked for had not been disclosed by the Respondents(IIM-B). The IC Shri Kejariwal has directed the IIM-B to provide Vaishnavi, all the information by July30,2007. The decison is available in the following link:

    Decision No. CIC/OK/C/2007/00136 dated 13/07/2007 on Complaint from Ms. Vaishnavi Kasturi Vs Indian Institute of Management, Bangalore

    The above decision also contains an interesting observation of the Commission, which may be useful to some of our readers. the marksheet – after the examinations was over – are in the public domain and there is no reason why this should not be disclosed or even liberally displayed.

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    Ganpat,

    Many thanks for sharing. I was waiting and looking forward to reading it.

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    IIM-B makes selection criteria public

    BANGALORE: After stating that its admission process was a 'trade secret', IIM-B made public its criteria for selecting students for its 2007 batch. It's the first time any IIM has revealed the selection process for admission to the post-graduate programme in management (PGP).

    This is a fallout of the case involving IIM-B and Vaishanavi Kasturi, a visually challenged girl who filed an application under Right to Information (RTI) Act.

    After being denied a seat in IIM-B, Vaishanavi sought to know the selection process. Central Information Commission (CIC), hearing the case, had set July 30 as the deadline for IIM-B to make its admission criteria public. IIM-B internally developed a process that seeks to identify the most promising candidates.

    This has been progressively refined over the years based on data on CAT applicants and academic performance of candidates.

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    IIM-B makes selection criteria public-India-The Times of India

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    IIMB discloses admission criteria - the 'trade secret'

    Bangalore: The Indian Institute of Management Bangalore (IIMB) has finally disclosed the criteria for selecting candidates to the post-graduate program in management (PGP) under the provision of Right to Information (RTI) Act. The admission process which was a 'trade secret' earlier now has been put on the institute's website for information.

    This direction came after 22-year-old visually challenged woman Vaishnavi Kasturi, was first refused information by IIMB. The institute declined to give details until the Central Information Commission (CIC) took the matter into consideration. The CIC had directed IIMB to make its admission criteria public on or before July 30.

    As per the detailed methodology published by IIMB, it has been revealed that a mere CAT score is not sufficient to get into an Indian Institute of Management (IIM). Having a CAT a good score means, the candidate is in the list of top 10% of CAT applicants.

    In fact, when it comes to admission in IIMs, it's Class X and Class XII results which account more - 25% of the final score; a candidate's Bachelor's degree 15%. The factor with the maximum weightage is his/her performance in group discussion (GD), GD summary and personal interview - 35%. The rest 5% depends on work experience and whether a candidate has taken a "professional course". However, professional course does not imply a B.Tech degree from Indian Institute of Technology (IIT) or any other prestigious college; only Chartered Accountancy course qualifies as a "professional course" for admission to PGP.

    IIM applicants in the general category need to be in the top ten percent in CAT scores. But it is again important for them to be considered for the interview call, if they secure in the top 15% in each section of the test verbal, logic and data, quantitative. SC/ST and disabled applicants need to be in the top 50% in logic and quantitative and top 45% in verbal. In overall score, however, SC applicants need to be in the top 25% while STs in the top 35%.

    IIMB discloses admission criteria – the ‘trade secret’, IIM News - By Indiaedunews.net

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