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    Re: Can the applicant be penalised for furnishing wrong information to the commision and try to settle score with PIA


    gopal ji,

    is this your case http://cic.gov.in/CIC-Orders/AT-11022009-02.pdf ?


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    Re: Can the applicant be penalised for furnishing wrong information to the commision and try to settle score with PIA


    Atul,
    It appears that the case referred to above by Mr.Goyal pertains to you. There appears no element of the cause of fear expressed by you in it nor any mention of your making any false statement. The arguement put forth by the CPIO and reply of the IC bringing in Section 7(9) appears appropriate. Still you did not come out with the type of information you need. If you come out with correct facts, members of this forum will be able to render the correct guidance.

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    Re: Can the applicant be penalised for furnishing wrong information to the commision and try to settle score with PIA


    Quote Originally Posted by revribhav View Post
    The date is actually 11.02.03,sorry for printing mistake.
    But the act came into force in 2005. I am sure the CICs were designated only after that date.

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    On going through the order of the CIC mentioned in the post #9, it appears that really the applicant was indulging in frivolous applications. We come across such persons sometimes. But it is surprising to brand such persons as 'serial petitioner'! We have heard about 'serial killers'. Now we hear about 'serial petitioners'.

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    CIC has given on more then 10 appeals which were on the same matter and against same PIO but it seems his intention was not to get information but to harass the authorities on one pretext or other. Even CIC was furious over him for wasting the precious time of PIO and CIC. I am sure such cases will bring one day a clause for penalty on appellant too.

    He could have done a great service, had he used the same time, money and energy to file the applications on other serious matter related to govt. and society.

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    Mr.Dinesh,
    I agree with you that the applicant might have taken the liberty of the Act little too much. But we should look at the issue from his point of view also. The PIO has caused him some sort of frustration from his point of view. His wish is to get the frustration relieved some how or other. One get immense relief when one find a way to retort or pay back. I find RTI Act is the best weapon. There are various ways available to take revenge according to ones capability. Money, muscle, wisdom, influence etc., etc., For those unfortunate section of the WE THE PEOPLE OF INDIA, RTI Act is the one and only power weapon he has got. Why do you want to prevent him from the way he can use lawfully. ? Yes the Tiwaries may not help him; but at least he has achieved what he wanted. Caused enough problem to the PIO to prevent him from causing harm to poor helpless subordinate. That is good enough.

    The RTI being meant for the common WE THE PEOPLE OF INDIA who has nothing with them to get things done, let him use RTI as the one and only powerful weapon in not only to get information but as a means to resolve personal and psychological problem. But look at the opposition he had to face. Even, myself who normally examine an issue from both sides got agittated like his PIO and IC and replied as above. But think it little cool. I believe that in a true democracy cityzens should keep on getting strength. We got freedon - but gained noting. We got a lovely Constitution - but gained nothing. Got adult franchise - gained nothing. But got the RTI Act - Now we feel as if we got something.

    Let us make use of the only on thing we got to optimum. We may get so many abuses. Misusers, Bargainers etc., etc., Please don't bother much about this. I feel that we should make use of the RTI Act to its optimum capacity. If it can be used to settle score lawfully, use it. (This is purely my own concept). Because the common man has nothing else. Even the adult franchisehe got also is laughing at him. This is one way of looking at the above type of incidence. I may be wrong.

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    Col sahib has rightly vented the feelings of most of us!

    But I wouldlike to remove a little bit of apologetic tinge attached to it.

    When the law makers felt that there was a need to promote transperancy and accountability the Act was passed. Whether these Tiwariis and PIOs and FAAs have right to supercede the parliament?

    When there is nothing like "misuse" or "abuse" or "serial petitioner" mentioned in the Act means there cannot be such thing.

    No need to be apologetic. I am exercising my right. This right is not by mercy of any Tiwari.

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    Colonel Sir, I too had the same views until I searched the CIC site and found that his case has been decided by CIC more then 10 times. After getting all the answers he seems to have stated asking explanation etc which was not covered under section 2(f). For example just check this decision.

    CIC also had to invoke section 7(9) in some of his appeals.

    The same amount of time could have been used by the CIC for other appeals which are piling at their office.

    His other appeals on the same subject :

    http://cic.gov.in/CIC-Orders/AT-01082008-14.pdf
    http://cic.gov.in/CIC-Orders/AT-11022009-02.pdf
    http://cic.gov.in/CIC-Orders/AT-16072008-10.pdf
    http://cic.gov.in/CIC-Orders/AT-12062008-01.pdf
    http://cic.gov.in/CIC-Orders/AT-10122008-05.pdf
    http://cic.gov.in/CIC-Orders/AT-05022009-03.pdf
    http://cic.gov.in/CIC-Orders/AT-17112008-12.pdf
    http://cic.gov.in/CIC-Orders/AT-17112008-11.pdf

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